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HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words

HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words are mine and which are not.

grzm 10y ago
Can you provide examples? I'd like to know what types of things they edit.
- dang 10y ago
  It's quite untrue. I can think of a single example where we edited a user's comment without them asking us to, and it happened a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176. As you can see, I posted what we did and why. The alternative would have been to kill the comment outright. Edit: my conscience reminds me that I've also edited several spelling mistakes over the years. That was mostly when I was filling in for pg.
  - grzm 10y ago
    Given what I've seen of your behavior (and sctb's) on HN, I didn't think my parent would be able to come up with any. I generally push back against apparently baseless accusations (which is what I assumed in this case) by asking for evidence.
    - dang 10y ago
      Thank you. That's a good approach to take, because if people do provide specific links, we can look into what happened and explain it. Grand accusations about HN moderation are nearly always without specific examples, which I suppose is a kind of evidence in its own right.
      - jsprogrammer 10y ago
        Nope, it's just a function of the HN interface. We have discussed this before; even when it has occurred. I've also given you links, I believe. Do you realize that you said I outright lied, but also posted that you did change things once, then admitted that it actually has occurred more than once?
- jsprogrammer 10y ago
  I will try digging through my comments later. Typically, I only see titles being altered. However, on at least one occasion, one of my regular comments was altered. E: you can start here: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=without%20notice%20jsprogrammer&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=without%20notice%20jsprogramme... You'll see a note about a changed title. The modified comment that I saw was quite awhile ago, but as dang has admitted, it happens. I'll try to find it at some point if you still care. E2: Github can also confirm that I identified this problem at least a year ago: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/blakelapierre/writings/master/Why%20Hacker%20News%20Sucks https://raw.githubusercontent.com/blakelapierre/writings/mas...
dang 10y ago
That is false. Coincidentally, we just banned your account for chronic abuse of this site, but seeing this certainly solidifies that decision. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13038244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13038244 and marked it off-topic.

HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words are mine and which are not.

grzm 10y ago

Can you provide examples? I'd like to know what types of things they edit.

dang 10y ago
It's quite untrue. I can think of a single example where we edited a user's comment without them asking us to, and it happened a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176. As you can see, I posted what we did and why. The alternative would have been to kill the comment outright. Edit: my conscience reminds me that I've also edited several spelling mistakes over the years. That was mostly when I was filling in for pg.
- grzm 10y ago
  Given what I've seen of your behavior (and sctb's) on HN, I didn't think my parent would be able to come up with any. I generally push back against apparently baseless accusations (which is what I assumed in this case) by asking for evidence.
  - dang 10y ago
    Thank you. That's a good approach to take, because if people do provide specific links, we can look into what happened and explain it. Grand accusations about HN moderation are nearly always without specific examples, which I suppose is a kind of evidence in its own right.
    - jsprogrammer 10y ago
      Nope, it's just a function of the HN interface. We have discussed this before; even when it has occurred. I've also given you links, I believe. Do you realize that you said I outright lied, but also posted that you did change things once, then admitted that it actually has occurred more than once?
jsprogrammer 10y ago
I will try digging through my comments later. Typically, I only see titles being altered. However, on at least one occasion, one of my regular comments was altered. E: you can start here: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=without%20notice%20jsprogrammer&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=without%20notice%20jsprogramme... You'll see a note about a changed title. The modified comment that I saw was quite awhile ago, but as dang has admitted, it happens. I'll try to find it at some point if you still care. E2: Github can also confirm that I identified this problem at least a year ago: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/blakelapierre/writings/master/Why%20Hacker%20News%20Sucks https://raw.githubusercontent.com/blakelapierre/writings/mas...

dang 10y ago

That is false. Coincidentally, we just banned your account for chronic abuse of this site, but seeing this certainly solidifies that decision. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13038244 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13038244 and marked it off-topic.