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the narrative that puts you in isolation if you don't use facebook is just wrong. This is the excuse that made the author of that post keeping his account, and
by drc0 10y ago
the narrative that puts you in isolation if you don't use facebook is just wrong.
This is the excuse that made the author of that post keeping his account, and one the reason fb is successful.
- dasyatidprime 10y agoThe latter half of that is true, isn't it? And yet. This is why you can't treat that type of statement as purely factual: so long as you're sharing a world with it, it's of a quine-like type which is always performative to speak, in a way, because how much people believe it on various levels (and thereby decide (or unconsciously "decide") things like "why should I bother to connect to these people when they won't even sign up for a free Facebook account to make it easier for me, since everyone knows that's just what you do") influences how true it is in a much stronger way than is the case for most objective statements. In light of that, I wonder whether my having said the above is good or bad? Hard to tell.
- NotOscarWilde 10y agoListing a couple of examples from my life: * A group of my friends who play badminton together organize weekly events only through Facebook. They use "Going/Not going" as a way of knowing how many people are coming. * One of my friends organizes film nights occasionally. Again, he does it through Facebook. He sets the date differently each time, so that all people can attend at least sometime. There is no info about this outside Facebook and we do not meet in real life otherwise (he is not my coworker and he lives in a different part of town). Is what you are suggesting really "cut from your life a portion of your friends that synchronize only through Facebook"? Surely it will not lead to a complete isolation for me, but being an introverted person, it will reduce my social life by a significant margin.
- harlanji 10y agoThis is what makes me keep mine too... events. Only events. Eventbrite is free but I've not hosted through it yet as I've not held (m)any events recently. That's a possible way out if it's low friction enough, seems most outgoing people in the BA have an EB account for concerts/meetups/etc... could possibly rally a couple people in your groups with anti-FB sentiment and pave the way off FB for these events. Many people I know feel somewhat trapped by some slice of FB/Google functionality so alternate suggestions could be welcome.
- greenhatman 10y agoI wish I could get everyone to use something like Retroshare. http://retroshare.net/ http://retroshare.net/
- unclenoriega 10y agoThis is the first I've heard of Retroshare. It looks interesting, but there's no way I'll be able to convert enough friends and family without a mobile app. I'm going to try out it out, though, and keep my fingers crossed.
- confounded 10y agoSame boat. I've dragged group conversations on to Signal, but events are a tough nut to crack. Something like meetup/eventbrite seems way too heavy for birthday drinks at a bar, and puts a sign-up/ToS/data burden on people who are interested in attending. With most people on gmail and Google not being much better, IMAP/ActiveSync CalDAV invitations with all the invitees' names and email addresses aren't too satisfying either. It's feature bloat, but I really hope an E2E event/calendar protocol makes it in to something like Signal or Riot/Matrix. Ideally it would consistently maintain state (e.g. changing place and time), update your calendar, and provide a place for invitees to chat.
- mrmrcoleman 10y agoI guess saving the Internet isn't supposed to be easy. Or did you think you could do something good AND have an easier life? There are no examples of that in history.
- appleiigs 10y agoBack in the Blackberry days, only one friend had an Android. He still got invited. Now everyone is on iPhones except for him. Still invited.