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Tesla is already beginning to end free charging. Any car ordered after 31/12/2016 will be limited to 400 kWh (~1000 miles) of free charging per year, after that

Tesla is already beginning to end free charging. Any car ordered after 31/12/2016 will be limited to 400 kWh (~1000 miles) of free charging per year, after that you have to pay. 1000 miles is around 10% of the distance most cars go in a year. And reserved != ordered, so this limit applies to all Model 3s.

eridius 10y ago
> 1000 miles is around 10% of the distance most cars go in a year. Comparing usage of the supercharger network to the total amount driven by the car in a year doesn't make much sense. You only need the supercharger network when going a long distance; otherwise, you can charge at home or perhaps at work.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  Exactly. But when it's free, people do crazy things like queue for half an hour to charge at a supercharger even though they could easily charge at home. I think this is the primary motivation of the new rules, to restrict supercharger use to those actually needing it.
  - eridius 10y ago
    I heard (secondhand info and all that) that there's some taxi startup somewhere that is using all Teslas, but instead of approaching Tesla about installing superchargers for their own use[1], they decided to just use the existing public superchargers, tying them up and creating long delays for anyone else who wants to use them. So it seems that this new rule is meant to combat that type of behavior. [1] Apparently companies can approach Tesla about installing their own private superchargers, though I don't know the details.
    - umeshunni 10y ago
      They're 'Tesloop', based in LA. I've seen complaints on the Tesla forums from LA area Tesla owners about how they keep hogging up the chargers. E.g Charging for Supercharging Won't Deter Local Fleet Operators https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/5bonff/charging_for_supercharging_wont_deter_local_fleet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/5bonff/chargin...

eridius 10y ago

> 1000 miles is around 10% of the distance most cars go in a year. Comparing usage of the supercharger network to the total amount driven by the car in a year doesn't make much sense. You only need the supercharger network when going a long distance; otherwise, you can charge at home or perhaps at work.

semi-extrinsic 10y ago
Exactly. But when it's free, people do crazy things like queue for half an hour to charge at a supercharger even though they could easily charge at home. I think this is the primary motivation of the new rules, to restrict supercharger use to those actually needing it.
- eridius 10y ago
  I heard (secondhand info and all that) that there's some taxi startup somewhere that is using all Teslas, but instead of approaching Tesla about installing superchargers for their own use[1], they decided to just use the existing public superchargers, tying them up and creating long delays for anyone else who wants to use them. So it seems that this new rule is meant to combat that type of behavior. [1] Apparently companies can approach Tesla about installing their own private superchargers, though I don't know the details.
  - umeshunni 10y ago
    They're 'Tesloop', based in LA. I've seen complaints on the Tesla forums from LA area Tesla owners about how they keep hogging up the chargers. E.g Charging for Supercharging Won't Deter Local Fleet Operators https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/5bonff/charging_for_supercharging_wont_deter_local_fleet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/5bonff/chargin...