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"These days, everybody from Left to Right – from the economist Dean Baker to the social scientist Arthur C Brooks, from Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump – address
by crdoconnor 10y ago
"These days, everybody from Left to Right – from the economist Dean Baker to the social scientist Arthur C Brooks, from Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump – addresses this breakdown of the labour market by advocating ‘full employment’, as if having a job is self-evidently a good thing, no matter how dangerous, demanding or demeaning it is. "
And, when you experiment with a job guarantee program and turn it into a basic income scheme you can see why:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/randy-wray-the-job-guarantee-and-real-world-experience.html http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/randy-wray-the-job-gu...
The increasing “feminization” of the program (caused in part by economic recovery that pulled most men out of the program and into the private sector) proved to be a political problem. Government officials adopted the attitude that the program was providing jobs to “economically inactive” women who should be at home instead of working. I won’t go into the details (in part because I am not sufficiently familiar with them) but officials created an alternative scheme by which the remaining men would be moved into an unemployment program and the women would be moved into welfare. These moves were voluntary, but higher pay in either unemployment or welfare was the attraction that helped to gut the Jefes program. One of my PhD students continued to study participants as the program was reduced—and found that women would rationally take the higher pay in welfare but continue to work in their jobs (without pay) because they found substantial benefits in the social networks they had created through work. They also wanted to contribute to their communities.
Somehow I doubt this story has permeated James Livingston's Brooklyn bubble though.
- henrikschroder 10y agoThat's the biggest problem I see as well with reaching a post-labour future. Every single political party across the entire spectrum has full employment as their stated goal. Some experiment with basic income, but it's still just seen as a different way of doing welfare, and it's always assumed that the majority of government taxation will come from other people's labour. People just cannot wrap their heads around a future where taxation is based on productivity, not human labour, and where labour is optional.
- crdoconnor 10y ago>That's the biggest problem I see as well with reaching a post-labour future. Every single political party across the entire spectrum has full employment as their stated goal. Yes, because the boring truth is that because people want jobs and we need them to do stuff. The only reason we really have a "reserve army of the unemployed" is as an inefficient way of enforcing "labor market discipline" for private companies. That's why they lobby for austerity, etc.
- GFischer 10y agoI'm not a fan of Cristina Kirchner's policies (to put it mildly), but this one sounds like it worked. Self-worth through jobs is an important point.