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My typical argument about Brexit with the leftists goes like this: ME: British are against the muslim immigration because large percentage of muslims hold thes
by imaginenore 10y ago
My typical argument about Brexit with the leftists goes like this:
ME: British are against the muslim immigration because large percentage of muslims hold these undemocratic antiwestern beliefs: A, B, C, D, and they don't assimilate.
THEM: You're a racist / bigot. Shame! Shame! Shame!
- EliRivers 10y agoAre you using the US meaning of "leftist" here? The British meaning is a bit different, but you seem to be using the US meaning in a British context.
- imaginenore 10y agoYeah, you're correct.
- switch007 10y agoHow would the perfect argument go? I'm thinking of the 2nd person asking questions about the first argument, asking for evidence, facts, definitions etc, in an attempt to understand. I ask as a British citizen who has failed at all attempts to try to understand the other side (and I could take blame of course. I still seek a solution)
- imaginenore 10y agoWell, I don't even consider calling names an argument. It's a cop-out, and it usually shows they have nothing else to counter with. A perfect argument would indeed require both sides to show the evidence, to use logical constructs, to refute the opposing ideas. And some definitely try.
- veddox 10y agoPolitics per se shouldn't be discussed on HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). However, I agree with you that all elements of the political spectrum are engaging in some pretty heavy name calling these days. One reason why Accord's project is so important.
- rndmio 10y agoRemind me again which European countries large numbers of Muslims have immigrated to the UK from?