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No offense but I'll let the hiring manager at facebook (not some guy on the 'net) decide whether I should get a referral bonus. All I'm saying here is that any

No offense but I'll let the hiring manager at facebook (not some guy on the 'net) decide whether I should get a referral bonus. All I'm saying here is that anything I get will go back to the team/applicant. I'm not sure how that's shady. I'd take down the glass door link if I could to appease you. Personally, I think it's better that all photo team applicants see it rather than the few that find it through some cursory pre-interview research.

dotBen 16y ago
No offense, but if you are going to mention splitting referral bonuses and the like on a public forum, people might make a comment about it - it's the nature of these public forum thingies. Ditto seeing as we're here to discuss the practices of running startups, among other things Anyway, I'm sure the realities of working for a BigCo will continue to sink in as time goes on (if you think Facebook is still a startup, keep drinking the koolaid). Congrats on the sale to Facebook, I hope the next few years on the earn out are good for you. EDIT: I notice you added the comment about the glassdoor link... it's not about appeasing me, it's your team and your employer, do what you like. But I would comment that while the interview Q's are out there, if someone was going to walk into my interview office with them already in their head, I'd like to think it is because they were savvy enough to go find them on their own and not because my staff member pointed the candidate directly to them. Just saying.
- Sam_Odio 16y ago
  I think we're getting too bogged down in the details here. If a facebook hiring manager has a problem they can email me and I'll fix it.
- dannyr 16y ago
  dotBen, Don't you think that people at Facebook are smart enough to figure out if the applicant really knows what he/she is talking about? An applicant can read the questions from that link but if he/she doesn't understand these algorithms, etc., the interviewers can easily tell the BS. As with drinking the Kool-Aid, what makes you a better judge than Sam? You seem jaded by your past experiences but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody.
  - dotBen 16y ago
    dannyr, So yes, I'm very sure my friends at Facebook can weed out those who know what they are talking about and those who don't. And yes, if you don't know how to do map the shortest distance on a cube or create a bubble sort method, etc then you are going to come up short regardless of what you have read on a cheat sheet online. But then, the same logic reasons that it is therefore pointless to direct people to the interview questions before hand, doesn't it? "As with drinking the Kool-Aid, what makes you a better judge than Sam?" My koolaid reference was to Sam's perspective that Facebook is still a startup. I don't think it's a case of being 'a better judge' on that one - facebook has over 1000 employees, has professional management, makes acquisitions (like his company) and has a $1bn+ valuation. It's not a startup. (I think they do a great job of encouraging the staff to think it is still a startup) I'm not jaded by any past, I'm not sure where that conclusion comes from. I do perhaps have, however, some more experience in hiring people (both for startups and for large companies) than Sam does... and maybe you are confusing 'thinking practically' for 'sounded jaded'. I guess I might sound jaded from my overall snarky tone, but that's just how I am at 1:40am on a Thursday morning. :P
    - waterlesscloud 16y ago
      Ah, the eternal question of philosophy, rephrased. If everyone at a large company think and act as if they are a startup, are they a startup?
- ErrantX 16y ago
  I highly doubt that represents all the interview questions likely to be asked. Indeed it seems Facebook know they are out there. Is splitting the referral bonus dodgy? Well if he hadn't mentioned it sods law says someone would come along and say "what about th referral bonus - you're just pitching to get some extra cash..." or something :) I just read it as him laying a potential issue to rest.
fleitz 16y ago
Is it ok to go past 3 sentences? Admittedly I went way over, but I thought it may be helpful to the other applicants to know. The topic is very exciting and I needed to write more :(
- Sam_Odio 16y ago
  Yes, but 3 is preferred.
calibraxis 16y ago
The interview questions link is the reason I upvoted this announcement; they interest me. And for what it's worth, I also find your reasoning for linking to them sensible.

dotBen 16y ago

No offense, but if you are going to mention splitting referral bonuses and the like on a public forum, people might make a comment about it - it's the nature of these public forum thingies. Ditto seeing as we're here to discuss the practices of running startups, among other things Anyway, I'm sure the realities of working for a BigCo will continue to sink in as time goes on (if you think Facebook is still a startup, keep drinking the koolaid). Congrats on the sale to Facebook, I hope the next few years on the earn out are good for you. EDIT: I notice you added the comment about the glassdoor link... it's not about appeasing me, it's your team and your employer, do what you like. But I would comment that while the interview Q's are out there, if someone was going to walk into my interview office with them already in their head, I'd like to think it is because they were savvy enough to go find them on their own and not because my staff member pointed the candidate directly to them. Just saying.

Sam_Odio 16y ago
I think we're getting too bogged down in the details here. If a facebook hiring manager has a problem they can email me and I'll fix it.
dannyr 16y ago
dotBen, Don't you think that people at Facebook are smart enough to figure out if the applicant really knows what he/she is talking about? An applicant can read the questions from that link but if he/she doesn't understand these algorithms, etc., the interviewers can easily tell the BS. As with drinking the Kool-Aid, what makes you a better judge than Sam? You seem jaded by your past experiences but that doesn't mean it happens to everybody.
- dotBen 16y ago
  dannyr, So yes, I'm very sure my friends at Facebook can weed out those who know what they are talking about and those who don't. And yes, if you don't know how to do map the shortest distance on a cube or create a bubble sort method, etc then you are going to come up short regardless of what you have read on a cheat sheet online. But then, the same logic reasons that it is therefore pointless to direct people to the interview questions before hand, doesn't it? "As with drinking the Kool-Aid, what makes you a better judge than Sam?" My koolaid reference was to Sam's perspective that Facebook is still a startup. I don't think it's a case of being 'a better judge' on that one - facebook has over 1000 employees, has professional management, makes acquisitions (like his company) and has a $1bn+ valuation. It's not a startup. (I think they do a great job of encouraging the staff to think it is still a startup) I'm not jaded by any past, I'm not sure where that conclusion comes from. I do perhaps have, however, some more experience in hiring people (both for startups and for large companies) than Sam does... and maybe you are confusing 'thinking practically' for 'sounded jaded'. I guess I might sound jaded from my overall snarky tone, but that's just how I am at 1:40am on a Thursday morning. :P
  - waterlesscloud 16y ago
    Ah, the eternal question of philosophy, rephrased. If everyone at a large company think and act as if they are a startup, are they a startup?
ErrantX 16y ago
I highly doubt that represents all the interview questions likely to be asked. Indeed it seems Facebook know they are out there. Is splitting the referral bonus dodgy? Well if he hadn't mentioned it sods law says someone would come along and say "what about th referral bonus - you're just pitching to get some extra cash..." or something :) I just read it as him laying a potential issue to rest.

fleitz 16y ago

Is it ok to go past 3 sentences? Admittedly I went way over, but I thought it may be helpful to the other applicants to know. The topic is very exciting and I needed to write more :(

Sam_Odio 16y ago
Yes, but 3 is preferred.

calibraxis 16y ago

The interview questions link is the reason I upvoted this announcement; they interest me. And for what it's worth, I also find your reasoning for linking to them sensible.