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Is this faked? http://archive.is/9FN8n http://archive.is/9FN8n Snopes has not "debunked" anything. Once, the couple who run the Snopes blog were good at invest

Is this faked? http://archive.is/9FN8n http://archive.is/9FN8n Snopes has not "debunked" anything. Once, the couple who run the Snopes blog were good at investigating urban legends and such. In recent years they have gotten more political and more obvious in their selective coverage to fit an agenda. Note, I am 100% against harassing the guy and his business, but you cannot deny his instagram had the pictures on it. Does that justify a barrage of internet hate and accusations of criminality? No. But lying about Instagram pictures being faked when they weren't is also not helpful. More 'fake' instagram posts tied to comet ping pong that make the conspiracy nuts raise their eyebrows: http://archive.is/jXWrG http://archive.is/jXWrG http://archive.is/8xQIo http://archive.is/8xQIo http://archive.is/mKH6M http://archive.is/mKH6M http://archive.is/dJoiL http://archive.is/dJoiL http://archive.is/S742A http://archive.is/S742A [NSFW] http://archive.is/S6jzu http://archive.is/S6jzu http://archive.is/8Bq8e http://archive.is/8Bq8e

pcwalton 10y ago
Surprisingly, I'm quite comfortable with my decision to trust the New York Times' investigative reporting team (which is what Snopes links to regarding this Instagram matter) over "archive.is" links created by Reddit and 4chan.
- Nadya 10y ago
  This is an edited screenshot of your post [0] with my personal user style applied. This is an archive.is link of your post [1]. Feel free to edit or delete this post. The edited screenshot should not and cannot be trusted to be valid. The archive link, on the other hand, can be trusted to have been a 3rd party 'screenshot' of your post at the time the archive was taken. Unless you are suggesting archive.is is a malicious actor or has any known cases of editing or changing archives made using its service. To my knowledge, there is no evidence or reason to believe either accusation. The archive.is links are not "created" by 4chan or Reddit users. The links are created by request of the service. It shouldn't matter who requests the service as long as the service is reliable. If the NYT investigative report team claims the archive.is links are doctored - I'd lose my faith in the NYT's ability to investigate as they have clearly failed in their duty. [0] http://i.imgur.com/ip7pxSX.png http://i.imgur.com/ip7pxSX.png [1] http://archive.is/7pz3G http://archive.is/7pz3G
  - pcwalton 10y ago
    I regret even giving the slightest impression that the credibility of the insane "pizzagate" theory could be buttressed by the Instagram photos in question, fake or not.
    - patrickg_zill 10y ago
      "Please stop harassing me with evidence."
      - pcwalton 10y ago
        Random Instagram photos aren't evidence. They're ridiculous speculation, and those who peddle these ludicrous theories should be ashamed of the real damage this is causing to innocent people's livelihoods. The Washington Post called the allegations "absurd on their face and detached from any gossamer thread of fact" [1]. I frankly cannot believe we are even debating this here. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-fake-news-hurts-real-people/2016/11/25/d9ee0590-b0f9-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-...
        trumpsupporter1 10y ago
        hmmm... really makes you think.

pcwalton 10y ago

Surprisingly, I'm quite comfortable with my decision to trust the New York Times' investigative reporting team (which is what Snopes links to regarding this Instagram matter) over "archive.is" links created by Reddit and 4chan.

Nadya 10y ago
This is an edited screenshot of your post [0] with my personal user style applied. This is an archive.is link of your post [1]. Feel free to edit or delete this post. The edited screenshot should not and cannot be trusted to be valid. The archive link, on the other hand, can be trusted to have been a 3rd party 'screenshot' of your post at the time the archive was taken. Unless you are suggesting archive.is is a malicious actor or has any known cases of editing or changing archives made using its service. To my knowledge, there is no evidence or reason to believe either accusation. The archive.is links are not "created" by 4chan or Reddit users. The links are created by request of the service. It shouldn't matter who requests the service as long as the service is reliable. If the NYT investigative report team claims the archive.is links are doctored - I'd lose my faith in the NYT's ability to investigate as they have clearly failed in their duty. [0] http://i.imgur.com/ip7pxSX.png http://i.imgur.com/ip7pxSX.png [1] http://archive.is/7pz3G http://archive.is/7pz3G
- pcwalton 10y ago
  I regret even giving the slightest impression that the credibility of the insane "pizzagate" theory could be buttressed by the Instagram photos in question, fake or not.
  - patrickg_zill 10y ago
    "Please stop harassing me with evidence."
    - pcwalton 10y ago
      Random Instagram photos aren't evidence. They're ridiculous speculation, and those who peddle these ludicrous theories should be ashamed of the real damage this is causing to innocent people's livelihoods. The Washington Post called the allegations "absurd on their face and detached from any gossamer thread of fact" [1]. I frankly cannot believe we are even debating this here. [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-fake-news-hurts-real-people/2016/11/25/d9ee0590-b0f9-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pizzagate-shows-how-...
      - trumpsupporter1 10y ago
        hmmm... really makes you think.