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VLC 360° Technical Preview
- butterfi 10y agoNo disrespect is meant to OP, but since I don't know anything about softwarecrew.com and the site looks sketchy as hell, I would offer: https://nightlies.videolan.org/ https://nightlies.videolan.org/
- evv 10y agoIf this had been posted on medium, nobody would have accused the source of being sketchy. Statements like yours encourage people to publish on big centralized sites, which are easier to control and censor. This centralization slowly erodes the open web, so thanks for that.
- adrianN 10y agoIf the download link would have pointed to an official VLC site I think nobody would have complained either.
- brazzledazzle 10y agoThis site has an off feel. If it didn't have the sidebar filled with ads and a "freeware rehoster" look it would fair a lot better. The name is debatable but "crew" has a piracy/hacker connotation for me. I think lot's of personal or non-central sites fly under the radar but this is the first time I've seen this insinuated that I can remember so I could be wrong.
- butterfi 10y agoI don't know what happens on Medium, but I take a dim view of download sites that wrap malware around popular open-source programs, a popular hacking technique that targets the less technically sophisticated. And when I see something, I say something. You're welcome.
- jbk 10y agoNo, you really should use this build: http://people.videolan.org/~jb/Builds/360/ http://people.videolan.org/~jb/Builds/360/ There are a few additional patches that are not yet present on the nightly builds. (For example making it work with the mouse on macOS, which you won't get on the NB). All the patches should get in, during the next couple of days.
- butterfi 10y agothank you! Straight from the source, awesome!
- mtgx 10y agoMeanwhile, subtitle support hasn't been working for weeks. And it still takes 5-6 clicks to even download a subtitle, while on other players it's either automatic or 1 click away. Why does the VLC team care so little about subtitles? This could be trivial to fix with a small UI change, yet it would have a big impact on people who need subtitles.
- noja 10y agoIt's an open source project, feel free to patch!
- jeremiep 10y agoIts open-source, nothing prevents you from stepping in and fixing it yourself. I had no problems with subtitles, and can't find any issue related to it that isn't years old. I'd say if there's an issue its either unknown or low priority from the low demand to fix it.
- jbk 10y agoIt is already fixed, in all nightly builds. Just download a build from there :)
- voltagex_ 10y agoVLC probably has a lower barrier to entry than some projects, but this advice still grates every time I hear it. There's a lot of things that could potentially stop someone contributing to VLC, even the ability to build it from source.
- pedrogpimenta 10y agoYou are downloading subtitles through VLC?? How?! I have had no problems with subtitles.
- mdrzn 10y agoVLSub (https://github.com/exebetche/vlsub https://github.com/exebetche/vlsub) was widely used so they decided to integrate it in the official VLC software I guess, since I didn't had to download it last time I formatted my pc and reinstalled VLC.
- fsiefken 10y agoI get 360 degree video, but is there support for 360 degree stereoscopic video? For example can you load two 360 degree videos taken an inch apart and play together?
- joncrocks 10y agoProbably not, as this has additional complexity as this would essentially be 3d video/VR, which requires hardware in order to be assimilated by a human in a meaningful manner.
- palunon 10y agoOr just some ability to cross your eyes ;) (if the image is not deformed for lenses)
- mdrzn 10y agoIn what way would you put two 360° camera 1inch apart? Apart in what direction? One would block at least 180° of the other cam. I guess you would need at least 4 to get the result you want.
- j_s 10y agoAt $340 I think this spherical camera is too cheap to be doing what you're looking for but I'm not sure: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014US3FQI/ https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B014US3FQI/
- crazygringo 10y agoIt's super cool. Like this: https://gopro.com/odyssey https://gopro.com/odyssey https://vr.google.com/jump/ https://vr.google.com/jump/ "Advanced computer vision and a whole lot of computing power to transform 16 pieces of video into stereoscopic VR video."
- fsiefken 10y agoFor example 2 fish-eye lenses both recording the same part of a sphere, 1 inch next to eachother in the same plane. Perhaps the blind spots can be interpolated on the basis of the comparing the frames with those of the other camera.
- gf263 10y agoThis site makes me feel dirty.
- jbk 10y agoI don't want to be rude, but you really should use the official URL: http://people.videolan.org/~jb/Builds/360/ http://people.videolan.org/~jb/Builds/360/ . The current link is quite fishy, tbh. Source: I wrote this page and this build, and I lead VLC development...
- kaishiro 10y agoAgreed. I see posts like this not being dissimilar to posting a paywalled version of an article when there is an open version available elsewhere. Would be good to have the URL switched to the official link you posted instead.
- x0f1a 10y agoHello Jean-Baptiste, first, thanks so much for VLC. Incredible contribution to keep the personal computing free. I have a curiosity, is there any reason for not distributing officially the 64bits version? I guess it would very useful, as lot of heavy users have from 16 to 64gb of RAM. thanks again.
- jbk 10y agoHey x0f1a, Just laziness from my side, I have to admit. It is just a preview, so I thought one build using 32bits is fine for everyone, it's not an everyday build. The nightly builds are still both 32 and 64bits and will work fine, as soon as all patches are in.
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- zardeh 10y agoYou should increase the opacity on the header bar on that page when you scroll down, you get weird interactions otherwise.
- sctb 10y agoThank you! We've updated the link from http://www.softwarecrew.com/2016/11/vlc-media-player-previews-360-degree-video-support http://www.softwarecrew.com/2016/11/vlc-media-player-preview....
- babayega2 10y agoAny Linux support (build) yet ? It seems to indicate that it works on MacOS and Windows only.
- jbk 10y agoWe usually don't build binaries for Linux, we let the distributions do it, by themselves.
- AdmiralAsshat 10y agoCan someone familiar with the project explain why Linux support isn't available yet? I'm not familiar with how VLC's code is structured, other than a Qt-driven interface. I guess I assumed that the backend was cross-platform as well. Does the 360 degree support depend on libraries that are not yet widely available for Linux?
- jbk 10y agoIt works totally fine on Linux, without any issue. We just don't provide Linux binaries, except Ubuntu Snaps, because it is extremely difficult to do. Just pull the code from the repo and you'll get that :)
- i-think 10y ago> We just don't provide Linux binaries, except Ubuntu Snaps, because it is extremely difficult to do. Why is it so hard? Do you mean that it would be extremely difficult to make the large number of binaries required for all the different Linux ditros?
- jbk 10y agoWell, it is difficult, because for a media player, you need to have a correct video stack, (which means X11, DRI, mesa, OpenGL etc...) and a correct audio stack (which means pulseaudio) and those are quite hard to ship in a cross platform way. If you look at the Snap packages of VLC, a LARGE part is not VLC at all, but this graphic stack.
- jmhain 10y ago> We just don't provide Linux binaries, except Ubuntu Snaps, because it is extremely difficult to do. Have you considered packaging with Flatpak [0] as well? Very similar to Snaps, but it'll work with many distros instead of just Ubuntu. [0] http://flatpak.org/ http://flatpak.org/
- morganvachon 10y ago
- garaetjjte 10y agoHow to enable stereographic ("little planet") projection?
- jbk 10y agolittle planet is not stereographic, but you activate that by zooming out and dragging it as you like.
- someonewithpc 10y agoNot to be pedantic, but it should be called spherical video. :P
- camoby 10y agoNot to be pedantic, but it should be called Equirectangular video. :P
- bitmapbrother 10y agoThis is nice and all, but where's the Chromecast support they promised a long time ago?
- andresgottlieb 10y agoPromised?
- jbk 10y agoChromeCast is in all the nightly builds since a very long time.
- y04nn 10y agoWell done, I like the possibility to change the "focal length". One thing I don't like on Youtube 360° videos is that they are too zoomed in this makes it difficult to watch.
- jbk 10y agoWe spent a large amount of time troll^Wdiscussing about the behaviour of the "focal length", notably whether we should increase the fov, the zoom or both, depending on the angle requested. I have to say that I'm quite happy with what we've decided to use, in the end. So your comment makes me happy :)
- fsiefken 10y ago360-degree feature request: interpolating 360 degree video from standard 16:9 Lost episode format. This should be doable as most information is there in previous and future frames so a 3d Photosynth (Microsoft) like model can be build. The rest can be guesed or be given a default texture themed by the surrounding pixels (like Philips Ambient), similar as to how people color black and white pictures or enlarge pictures with fractal-based interpolation techniques.
- pedalpete 10y agoI think what you're suggesting is create the scene based on multiple shots and removing the people? Or just using different scenery shots? Is that correct. It's actually quite interesting and I think you are correct that you could create a 360 environment from a trove of clips which is 'good enough' to pass. I do wonder about how the story line unfolds in 360. A film was made with cuts so you didn't have to move around. What happens when an actor on your left is speaking to an actor on your right, or behind you. Do you miss out on bits because you were not looking where the director thought you would? do you feel more or less realism? It's an interesting proposition.
- camoby 10y agoThis is actually not as crazy as is sounds. It's surely just a matter of time until we can run a script or app on a movie file and have it generate scenes it can find. The only issue is interpolating the 'physical' location from the scenes. Having something automatically detect how it all joins together would be pretty impressive, but not impossible, with plenty of horsepower.
- superdude 10y agoWhoa that's pretty impressive.
- martell 10y agoWhere can I get some decent Creative Commons 360 video resources to play around with this or some decent paid film I can buy made in this format? I am Looking forward to the watching films with a VR headset when support is added next year. Good stuff jbk and team
- SexyCyborg 10y agoMy stuff is all Creative Commons: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGeUG3dR0tKtO0KVkANv4D2VxLVl9RrG https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzGeUG3dR0tKtO0KVkANv... You can use a plugin to download them. Resolution is not amazing (used LG 360) but decent enough.
- toomuchtodo 10y agoOff topic: I absolutely love your DIY posts on Reddit. Appreciate the openness in which you deep dive into your projects.
- SexyCyborg 10y agoThanks!
- skrowl 10y agoWill this eventually work with the hardware on my Pixel XL and my Daydream headset?
- jbk 10y agoWe hope so, yes.
- krick 10y agoI wonder when something like this will be available for mpv.
- camoby 10y agoJust a bit of feedback: One thing I noticed, compared to the 2.2.4 version is the errors and warning popup. On the 2.2.4 version, all errors/warnings (eg: from a playlist which hits some 404s) appear in a small single list window and do not require a click OK to continue. This new version pops all errors into a separate pop-up which requires an OK to dismiss. Pretty annoying. Otherwise, great to see 360 video adoption. ps: Also, I used to be able to drag the video around (or to another monitor) in the middle of the player screen. Now it appears that I have to grab the title bar.