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- I can understand Facebook's action here, it's either give in or be out of the biggest market of tomorrow. - I can understand western media trying to stir pol

- I can understand Facebook's action here, it's either give in or be out of the biggest market of tomorrow. - I can understand western media trying to stir polemic about it, it's how they make their money. - I can't understand people buying media crap and getting "shocked". Didn't Facebook do similar things for US Gov in the past? Did they think Zuck was a people's champion?

gutnor 10y ago
> Did they think Zuck was a people's champion? You say that as if it was obvious. But actually he is successful, he is young, he is rich, he is known as tech-genius that changed the alone with his 2 bare hands, he is everything that we are supposed to aspire to be in the Western world. As such, he is continuously spin as a good natured fellow tirelessly working for the good of mankind. So yes that will surprise a lot of people to learn he is not the White Knight they thought he was.
- noir_lord 10y ago
  If you know Zuckerbergs history it's pretty apparent he was never a white knight of any description, he's talented but there is a lot of right place/right time as well. Still that doesn't feed the narrative beast so we conveniently forget that. You see the same with other tech CEO's all the time, I rather like Larry Ellison for that reason, he rarely pretends to be anything he isn't.
  - thewhitetulip 10y ago
    I remember Zuck's chat screenshots from many years ago where he called his collegemats as "dumb fucks" because they "trust me"
    - Lordarminius 10y ago
      The screenshots are still floating around. I saw them on Quora a couple of days ago
      - thewhitetulip 10y ago
        Yep, saw it on Quora too.
  - hhw 10y ago
    Aside from his face? He's had way too much work done on it. Also not sure how much credit Ellison deserves for being unrepentantly unethical. I guess that's slightly better than being duplicitous about it, but still far from being worthy of admiration.
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- justicezyx 10y ago
  > with his 2 bare hands I hope you do not believe this yourself. Seeing this on HN makes me sad, and it is an insult to FB employees that it's Zuck built everything with his 2 bare hands. Such media manufactured popular misconception should not have any breathing air on HN.
  - gutnor 10y ago
    I don't personally and I don't believe there is any mistake in the technically minded crowd. But that's the reality of the world outside and that world is way bigger than ours. Ignoring it will not make it go away.

gutnor 10y ago

> Did they think Zuck was a people's champion? You say that as if it was obvious. But actually he is successful, he is young, he is rich, he is known as tech-genius that changed the alone with his 2 bare hands, he is everything that we are supposed to aspire to be in the Western world. As such, he is continuously spin as a good natured fellow tirelessly working for the good of mankind. So yes that will surprise a lot of people to learn he is not the White Knight they thought he was.

noir_lord 10y ago
If you know Zuckerbergs history it's pretty apparent he was never a white knight of any description, he's talented but there is a lot of right place/right time as well. Still that doesn't feed the narrative beast so we conveniently forget that. You see the same with other tech CEO's all the time, I rather like Larry Ellison for that reason, he rarely pretends to be anything he isn't.
- thewhitetulip 10y ago
  I remember Zuck's chat screenshots from many years ago where he called his collegemats as "dumb fucks" because they "trust me"
  - Lordarminius 10y ago
    The screenshots are still floating around. I saw them on Quora a couple of days ago
    - thewhitetulip 10y ago
      Yep, saw it on Quora too.
- hhw 10y ago
  Aside from his face? He's had way too much work done on it. Also not sure how much credit Ellison deserves for being unrepentantly unethical. I guess that's slightly better than being duplicitous about it, but still far from being worthy of admiration.
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justicezyx 10y ago
> with his 2 bare hands I hope you do not believe this yourself. Seeing this on HN makes me sad, and it is an insult to FB employees that it's Zuck built everything with his 2 bare hands. Such media manufactured popular misconception should not have any breathing air on HN.
- gutnor 10y ago
  I don't personally and I don't believe there is any mistake in the technically minded crowd. But that's the reality of the world outside and that world is way bigger than ours. Ignoring it will not make it go away.