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As a Swede I was shocked when I moved to Scotland and found out that they have a lot of diesel trains.

by K0nserv 10y ago

snaily 10y ago
Sweden has a whole bunch of not-yet-electrified lines - just not where most people are: http://www.jarnvag.net/component/customproperties/tag?cp[omrade][0]=gotaland&cp[omrade][1]=svealand&cp[omrade][2]=norrland&cp[omrade][3]=&cp[sparvidd][0]=1435_mm&cp[sparvidd][1]=891_mm&cp[sparvidd][2]=600_mm&cp[sparvidd][3]=&cp[trafik][0]=persontrafik&cp[trafik][1]=godstrafik&cp[trafik][2]=&cp[elektrifierad][0]=oelektrifierad&cp[elektrifierad][1]=&cp[bind_to_category]=content:26,content:31,content:36 http://www.jarnvag.net/component/customproperties/tag?cp[omr...
- K0nserv 10y ago
  Yeah I probably have some confirmation bias having travelled mainly inside the Stockholm/Sörmland region and from Stockholm to Gothenburg. I was very surprised to see that Edinburgh to Glasgow is not electrified for example.
  - Reason077 10y ago
    Work to electrify Edinburgh to Glasgow is already in progress. Electric trains will be running by 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_to_Glasgow_Improvement_Programme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_to_Glasgow_Improveme...
kwhitefoot 10y ago
You have diesel trains in Sweden too. On small lines like Kristinahamn to Ludvika and in the north. Various places where there is too little traffic to make it economic to electrify. Same here in Norway in the north.
- vidarh 10y ago
  The difference in the UK is that significant, high traffic lines are still diesel as well. The Great Western [1] line from London to the west of England and South Wales is a good example that is finally being electrified, but is still years behind schedule. The UK is still catching up after decades of underinvestment in rail infrastructure. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Main_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Main_Line
  - kwhitefoot 10y ago
    I know. And I find it personally very dispiriting as I come from Swindon and my grandfather worked a steam hammer in the forge when the railway works was still the biggest employer in the town. The old GWR had some world leading ideas at times and the modern organizations that bear the name don't compare.

As a Swede I was shocked when I moved to Scotland and found out that they have a lot of diesel trains.

by K0nserv 10y ago

As a Swede I was shocked when I moved to Scotland and found out that they have a lot of diesel trains.

Sweden has a whole bunch of not-yet-electrified lines - just not where most people are: http://www.jarnvag.net/component/customproperties/tag?cp[omrade][0]=gotaland&cp[omrade][1]=svealand&cp[omrade][2]=norrland&cp[omrade][3]=&cp[sparvidd][0]=1435_mm&cp[sparvidd][1]=891_mm&cp[sparvidd][2]=600_mm&cp[sparvidd][3]=&cp[trafik][0]=persontrafik&cp[trafik][1]=godstrafik&cp[trafik][2]=&cp[elektrifierad][0]=oelektrifierad&cp[elektrifierad][1]=&cp[bind_to_category]=content:26,content:31,content:36 http://www.jarnvag.net/component/customproperties/tag?cp[omr...

K0nserv 10y ago
Yeah I probably have some confirmation bias having travelled mainly inside the Stockholm/Sörmland region and from Stockholm to Gothenburg. I was very surprised to see that Edinburgh to Glasgow is not electrified for example.
- Reason077 10y ago
  Work to electrify Edinburgh to Glasgow is already in progress. Electric trains will be running by 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_to_Glasgow_Improvement_Programme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_to_Glasgow_Improveme...

kwhitefoot 10y ago

You have diesel trains in Sweden too. On small lines like Kristinahamn to Ludvika and in the north. Various places where there is too little traffic to make it economic to electrify. Same here in Norway in the north.

vidarh 10y ago
The difference in the UK is that significant, high traffic lines are still diesel as well. The Great Western [1] line from London to the west of England and South Wales is a good example that is finally being electrified, but is still years behind schedule. The UK is still catching up after decades of underinvestment in rail infrastructure. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Main_Line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Main_Line
- kwhitefoot 10y ago
  I know. And I find it personally very dispiriting as I come from Swindon and my grandfather worked a steam hammer in the forge when the railway works was still the biggest employer in the town. The old GWR had some world leading ideas at times and the modern organizations that bear the name don't compare.