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Ok - so hyptothetically, if Brexit should happen, there would be no "internal" instance for something like this. That sounds scary.

by jagermo 10y ago

Lunar_Lamp 10y ago
Slightly more complex than that, as the ECHR isn't an EU institution, so Brexit won't result in any significant change to the relationship with the ECHR (it's a little more complex than I've made sound, as there are some relatively minor links with the EU). However, May has stated her desire to also leave the European convention on human rights (and replace it with a UK owned Bill of Rights). This is not something that's happening as part of Brexit, and no bills have been presented before Parliament with this as a component or purpose. I would assume that the government would take the pragmatic approach that it's better to focus on Brexit for now, and deal with the ECHR once Brexit is over with. However, I have no inside knowledge of this, and that's just my wild and unsubstantiated assumption.
- jagermo 10y ago
  Thank you - damn, i fell right into the "I thought Europe = EU" trap.
  - matt4077 10y ago
    No worries – so did most of Britain. I believe the ECHR was a argument for Brexit.
- rlpb 10y ago
  There is one other relevant complexity. ECHR membership is a condition of being a member of the EU. Brexit has to happen for the UK to depart from the ECHR. So voting for Remain was also a vote to keep the UK locked in to the ECHR. Voting for Leave was also a vote to release that lock.
targ2002 10y ago
The UK voted to leave the EU not the ECHR which is a different treaty organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_R... for more information.
int_19h 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty
throwaway049 10y ago
The European Court of Human Rights is separate from the EU and the UK will will still be part of it after Brexit. But the political climate might be such that leaving ECHR could follow on from Brexit

Ok - so hyptothetically, if Brexit should happen, there would be no "internal" instance for something like this. That sounds scary.

by jagermo 10y ago

Ok - so hyptothetically, if Brexit should happen, there would be no "internal" instance for something like this. That sounds scary.

Lunar_Lamp 10y ago

Slightly more complex than that, as the ECHR isn't an EU institution, so Brexit won't result in any significant change to the relationship with the ECHR (it's a little more complex than I've made sound, as there are some relatively minor links with the EU). However, May has stated her desire to also leave the European convention on human rights (and replace it with a UK owned Bill of Rights). This is not something that's happening as part of Brexit, and no bills have been presented before Parliament with this as a component or purpose. I would assume that the government would take the pragmatic approach that it's better to focus on Brexit for now, and deal with the ECHR once Brexit is over with. However, I have no inside knowledge of this, and that's just my wild and unsubstantiated assumption.

jagermo 10y ago
Thank you - damn, i fell right into the "I thought Europe = EU" trap.
- matt4077 10y ago
  No worries – so did most of Britain. I believe the ECHR was a argument for Brexit.
rlpb 10y ago
There is one other relevant complexity. ECHR membership is a condition of being a member of the EU. Brexit has to happen for the UK to depart from the ECHR. So voting for Remain was also a vote to keep the UK locked in to the ECHR. Voting for Leave was also a vote to release that lock.

targ2002 10y ago

The UK voted to leave the EU not the ECHR which is a different treaty organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_R... for more information.

int_19h 10y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty

throwaway049 10y ago

The European Court of Human Rights is separate from the EU and the UK will will still be part of it after Brexit. But the political climate might be such that leaving ECHR could follow on from Brexit