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I think you're right on both counts. After getting the hang of it, flexbox is pretty straightforward to use, IMO less confusing and touchy than floats, especia

by jrapdx3 10y ago

I think you're right on both counts. After getting the hang of it, flexbox is pretty straightforward to use, IMO less confusing and touchy than floats, especially for responsive layouts. Most browsers are OK these days, but IE/Edge is where I've encountered the most problems with compatability. There are ways to work around it, but that takes a bit of additional effort. CSS tools, e.g., Autoprefix are useful.

shakna 10y ago
Absolutely, flexbox is great. My comment with browsers, is more about knowing your audience. Most of the evergreen browsers do support flexbox but... Well, I maintain a website for a company. 97.3% of visitors, are return visitors. 69.77% of the visitors are using a version of Internet Explorer. 69.03% of the visitors are using Internet Explorer 7.0. I have no hope of getting to use flexbox to simplify managing the website, which makes me very sad.
- majewsky 10y ago
  I would try communicating to my manager that maintaining IE 7 support is costly for you. When you work on some IE-7-specific issue, log your time, and show them an actual rundown. Maybe that will tilt the cost-benefit analysis far enough to push them into upgrading their default browser. (By the way, I'm sympathetic with you. When I deployed a big feature in an intranet web application in 2012, it broke for dozens of users, and it took me days to track down the misplaced comma that broke the neck of the IE 7 JS parser.)
  - shakna 10y ago
    More than 69% of our regular users are on IE7, we just can't afford to drop that. (They do in fact get a pop up telling them to upgrade, but that had no noticeable affect on traffic).
    - 91bananas 10y ago
      What country are you in? That is an alarming rate of ie7 traffic
      - shakna 10y ago
        Not sure country counts at all when looking at this stuff, because individual sites very rarely reflect national trends. However, that particular site is Australian, where Chrome makes up ~50% of traffic.
    - majewsky 10y ago
      He said it's an internal application IIRC, so someone in the company is responsible for that.

by jrapdx3 10y ago

shakna 10y ago

Absolutely, flexbox is great. My comment with browsers, is more about knowing your audience. Most of the evergreen browsers do support flexbox but... Well, I maintain a website for a company. 97.3% of visitors, are return visitors. 69.77% of the visitors are using a version of Internet Explorer. 69.03% of the visitors are using Internet Explorer 7.0. I have no hope of getting to use flexbox to simplify managing the website, which makes me very sad.

majewsky 10y ago
I would try communicating to my manager that maintaining IE 7 support is costly for you. When you work on some IE-7-specific issue, log your time, and show them an actual rundown. Maybe that will tilt the cost-benefit analysis far enough to push them into upgrading their default browser. (By the way, I'm sympathetic with you. When I deployed a big feature in an intranet web application in 2012, it broke for dozens of users, and it took me days to track down the misplaced comma that broke the neck of the IE 7 JS parser.)
- shakna 10y ago
  More than 69% of our regular users are on IE7, we just can't afford to drop that. (They do in fact get a pop up telling them to upgrade, but that had no noticeable affect on traffic).
  - 91bananas 10y ago
    What country are you in? That is an alarming rate of ie7 traffic
    - shakna 10y ago
      Not sure country counts at all when looking at this stuff, because individual sites very rarely reflect national trends. However, that particular site is Australian, where Chrome makes up ~50% of traffic.
  - majewsky 10y ago
    He said it's an internal application IIRC, so someone in the company is responsible for that.