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Just wait until IBM's Phoenix Pay system and the scandal here in Canada comes to a head. With 300,000 civil servants waiting six months to be paid and it's stil

Just wait until IBM's Phoenix Pay system and the scandal here in Canada comes to a head. With 300,000 civil servants waiting six months to be paid and it's still not fixed. There must be a big penalty looming for such a massive level of incompetence. Phoenix seems like a rather awkward name for an application. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/world/canada/government-workers-pay.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/world/canada/government-wo... >Though many government employees work in 9-to-5 office jobs, the public payroll also includes a wide array of people like Mr. Ryan with complicated work schedules and pay rules. My father used to be in the Coast Guard he worked 28 days on and had 28 days off. If you were injured that meant the days you were off were really two days?? Try explain that to some bureaucrat in Ottawa who can thinks they are speaking English (really French), they're 2,000 miles away and doesn't understand the system either.

nihonde 10y ago
As someone who has negotiated similar contracts with providers like IBM, I'm willing to bet that someone on the customer side gave into the pressure to rush the lawyers while IBM did a nice job of generating loophole-filled statements of work, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that penalty.
adambrenecki 10y ago
Oh God, that sounds an awful lot like two more Australian systems: the Queensland Health payroll debacle, where a bunch of health workers were paid incorrectly or not at all. Or the National Disability Insurance Scheme debacle, where healthcare providers haven't been paid, resulting in small business owners having to take out huge amounts of personal debt just to pay their employees, and sole traders unable to provide services their clients need to live day to day while still keeping a roof over their own heads. (They're both IBM projects too.)
- shakna 10y ago
  Do you have a link for IBM's mishandling of the NDIS? Interested, but can't find a link.

nihonde 10y ago

As someone who has negotiated similar contracts with providers like IBM, I'm willing to bet that someone on the customer side gave into the pressure to rush the lawyers while IBM did a nice job of generating loophole-filled statements of work, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that penalty.

adambrenecki 10y ago

Oh God, that sounds an awful lot like two more Australian systems: the Queensland Health payroll debacle, where a bunch of health workers were paid incorrectly or not at all. Or the National Disability Insurance Scheme debacle, where healthcare providers haven't been paid, resulting in small business owners having to take out huge amounts of personal debt just to pay their employees, and sole traders unable to provide services their clients need to live day to day while still keeping a roof over their own heads. (They're both IBM projects too.)

shakna 10y ago
Do you have a link for IBM's mishandling of the NDIS? Interested, but can't find a link.