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In software or in hardware? The Pixel is a beautiful device, but the security and demographics of Android vs. iOS speaks for itself in how much an Android 0day

In software or in hardware? The Pixel is a beautiful device, but the security and demographics of Android vs. iOS speaks for itself in how much an Android 0day goes for vs. an iOS 0day. Android is simply not hardened or built with much security in mind, and now they are trying to catch up on that; the problem is that the Android ecosystem is brutally fragmented.

roryisok 10y ago
It maybe beautiful to use, but that thing is pig ugly
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  Since it's so close to the aesthetics of an iPhone the same must be true.
  - roryisok 10y ago
    ok maybe "pig ugly" was a little over the top, but I do find it very plain and uninteresting. I don't see what the fuss is about, design wise
    - pawadu 10y ago
      minimalism?
bitmapbrother 10y ago
Each has its pros and cons in software and hardware. But judging from the Pixel reviews I've read it's on par with the iPhone from a performance, touch latency and UI fluidity perspective. And this is all without Google producing their own silicon yet. As for security, which OS gets monthly security patches? It's not as if iOS security is impenetrable because you just need to look at the number of CVE's raised against it each year. And if you're going to use 0day bounties as a metric then you should also realise that there's just more demand for iOS exploits then there are for Android exploits due to the calibre of targets that have iOS devices. And to imply that Android is simply not hardened or built with much security in mind is ridiculous in my opinion. Security is a challenge for all popular OS's, but for all of the security issues it's had there has yet to be the so called armageddon these shock-jock journalists have all predicted at one time or another. I guess all of the mitigation strategies are working quite well not to mention the side benefit of exploits being device dependant. Meanwhile, every security nightmare you read or hear about always involves Windows. >the problem is that the Android ecosystem is brutally fragmented. Looks like Android now has company. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-also-has-a-fragmentation-problem/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-also-has-a-fragmentation-pr...
micaksica 10y ago
For the record, on the front page of HN right now: https://cpbotha.net/2016/11/27/android-security-in-2016-is-a-mess/ https://cpbotha.net/2016/11/27/android-security-in-2016-is-a...

roryisok 10y ago

It maybe beautiful to use, but that thing is pig ugly

bitmapbrother 10y ago
Since it's so close to the aesthetics of an iPhone the same must be true.
- roryisok 10y ago
  ok maybe "pig ugly" was a little over the top, but I do find it very plain and uninteresting. I don't see what the fuss is about, design wise
  - pawadu 10y ago
    minimalism?

bitmapbrother 10y ago

Each has its pros and cons in software and hardware. But judging from the Pixel reviews I've read it's on par with the iPhone from a performance, touch latency and UI fluidity perspective. And this is all without Google producing their own silicon yet. As for security, which OS gets monthly security patches? It's not as if iOS security is impenetrable because you just need to look at the number of CVE's raised against it each year. And if you're going to use 0day bounties as a metric then you should also realise that there's just more demand for iOS exploits then there are for Android exploits due to the calibre of targets that have iOS devices. And to imply that Android is simply not hardened or built with much security in mind is ridiculous in my opinion. Security is a challenge for all popular OS's, but for all of the security issues it's had there has yet to be the so called armageddon these shock-jock journalists have all predicted at one time or another. I guess all of the mitigation strategies are working quite well not to mention the side benefit of exploits being device dependant. Meanwhile, every security nightmare you read or hear about always involves Windows. >the problem is that the Android ecosystem is brutally fragmented. Looks like Android now has company. http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-also-has-a-fragmentation-problem/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/ios-also-has-a-fragmentation-pr...

micaksica 10y ago

For the record, on the front page of HN right now: https://cpbotha.net/2016/11/27/android-security-in-2016-is-a-mess/ https://cpbotha.net/2016/11/27/android-security-in-2016-is-a...