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I think they should push the Project Astoria part. I know they are worried people will stop developing Windows Apps but I believe if they can gain a significant

I think they should push the Project Astoria part. I know they are worried people will stop developing Windows Apps but I believe if they can gain a significant mobile market share going down the Astoria part, developers will soon start to think "hey, I might just make a native windows app since so many already use my Android app emulated on Windows". The duopoly is being abused. I am a iOS developer and I hate the 30% cut they take off my income. Their appstore algorithm favours established actors even when their product is far worse. I have seen apps that doesnt even boot on iOS9 ranking higher in the search results page than mine. And lets not forget the Spotify vs Apple case. The consumers need a third mobileOS to bring some competition. It is becoming stale with Apple and Android.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
Astoria was amazing, I have a phone with the dev build it worked on at home with some Android apps on it. Ran great... Well, as great as Android apps run.
joshmn 10y ago
WebOS, how I miss you.
- micaksica 10y ago
  WebOS was far ahead of its time, and the shitty hardware all but killed it. FFOS seemed to be what WebOS was, but that didn't go anywhere, either. I think the big problem a new OS will have is compatibility with existing iOS/Android software stacks. You need to be able to run one or the other until you get market share for your own applications, because the majority of the populace wants their bread-and-butter Facebook, Snapchat, et al and these companies will not give your upstart OS any love until you have users.
  - joshmn 10y ago
    Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I was a Palm Pre user from day 1. I loved everything about WebOS. I still do. I agree with your points completely.
    - micaksica 10y ago
      Downvotes on HN these days are slowly becoming as bad as Reddit: it's no longer "downvote this if there is no argument or there is no added meaning to this conversation", as much as it can be "I disagree with this statement." The Pre was a fantastic device and did a lot of things right from a UX perspective, IMO. The hardware was terrible and there wasn't any mind paid toward securing anything really, but it was a breath of fresh air in the duopoly.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago

Astoria was amazing, I have a phone with the dev build it worked on at home with some Android apps on it. Ran great... Well, as great as Android apps run.

joshmn 10y ago

WebOS, how I miss you.

micaksica 10y ago
WebOS was far ahead of its time, and the shitty hardware all but killed it. FFOS seemed to be what WebOS was, but that didn't go anywhere, either. I think the big problem a new OS will have is compatibility with existing iOS/Android software stacks. You need to be able to run one or the other until you get market share for your own applications, because the majority of the populace wants their bread-and-butter Facebook, Snapchat, et al and these companies will not give your upstart OS any love until you have users.
- joshmn 10y ago
  Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I was a Palm Pre user from day 1. I loved everything about WebOS. I still do. I agree with your points completely.
  - micaksica 10y ago
    Downvotes on HN these days are slowly becoming as bad as Reddit: it's no longer "downvote this if there is no argument or there is no added meaning to this conversation", as much as it can be "I disagree with this statement." The Pre was a fantastic device and did a lot of things right from a UX perspective, IMO. The hardware was terrible and there wasn't any mind paid toward securing anything really, but it was a breath of fresh air in the duopoly.