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How Satya Nadella is taking on Apple and Amazon
- rbanffy 10y agoThe trail of dead products (and companies) is not exactly encouraging.
- grawlinson 10y agoMicrosoft's track record at starting and failing with their various iterations of mobile OSes is why I'll never take any mobile offering of theirs seriously.
- pjmlp 10y agoYet many of the ideas in Android and iOS were in Microsoft devices first, even if they failed to monetize them properly. Regardless of what will happen with this Surface phone, at least from the consumer computer stores in some European countries, it is clear to me Windows 10 is the current winner for hybrid tablets and netbooks reborn, given that they replaced most of the Android ones that used to be on display.
- nobodyshere 10y agoMotorola, Fujitsu-Siemens, palm. They all had portable windows devices, nobody had it good.
- rbanffy 10y agoI have to disagree here. PalmOS was never intended to be a phone OS, but WebOS was absolutely awesome, many years ahead of its competition.
- nobodyshere 10y agoI wasn't talking about the os, as I personally liked it. The company however had a windows based phone.
- weego 10y agoObviously I completely agree, but the Surface line of hardware so far is good quality and feels coherent if a tad expensive for me. Expanding the product line from phabletey to large desktop could work for them.
- cm2187 10y agoGood quality? Depends on your affinity to blue screens.
- rbanffy 10y agoThey have well built products (I still find the Surface Studio a bit gimmicky), but they are not much better than what their partners and competitors offer. And, if they ever get to the point of having something that is much better than what their partners have, I imagine there will be a lot better support for Linux on the market.
- Fej 10y ago> Mr. Nadella, however, said the company was not going to launch into a device category without bringing something different to the table Continuum, done right.
- Numberwang 10y agoAs someone who can't stand apple yet also is getting bored of Android apps (linux) crashing every 5 minutes, I feel it would be great if Microsoft could release something new to the market with the same reliability as their Desktop OS.
- i_are_smart 10y agoI hope they present and push a focus on security with whatever they do. I use android because I don't like apple, but it seems like there's a new critical android vulnerability every 2 weeks, and they all take 4 - 6 months to actually get the patch to my phone.
- bitmapbrother 10y agoThey should probably start with their desktop OS first.
- seibelj 10y agoIt's too much of a risk to develop a top tier app on a risky platform like whatever MS comes up with next.
- gressquel 10y agoAgree, too much risk for indie developers. But for companies like SnapChat its all about being anti-Microsoft and preventing anyone creating a snapchat app for its phone platform.
- pjmlp 10y agoPlease do, lately I have been having more fun with my Lumia devices than the Android ones. Coding for UWP (aka WinRT) is a pleasure compared with the Android chaos, specially having a common OS OO ABI for multiple languages and tools that don't feel permanently in alpha stage, regardless of the amount of PhDs able to game the hiring process.
- gressquel 10y agoI kinda understand you very well. Sometimes I wonder if google should just scratch Android and start over again. I mean no matter how much optimizing and tweaks they come up with, it will never be able to match iOS or Windows Phone in performance.
- icebraining 10y agoMaybe, but business-wise, why should they care?
- m_fayer 10y agoThe business case would be to have a phone os that people love, like Apple does. Android would be my preferred os, if it actually worked properly. Most lay people I know feel the same. A new Android device is a joy for the few months before it falls to pieces, then it's a necessary headache, much like windows was a decade ago. If you dominate a market with a product no one loves, you better be a locked-in telecom. Otherwise, as Microsoft learned, your dominance may be surprisingly fragile.
- bitmapbrother 10y agoI can tell you've never really used any high end Android phones lately. People like you probably formulate their opinions of Android based upon the $30 phones they buy. Try out a Pixel, S7 or a One Plus 3 some time. Android surpassed Windows Phone a long time ago and the Pixel is on par with the iPhone.
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- acqq 10y agoI've read the article, and it's the opposite of what the title says. The article writes about "rumors" but Nadella hasn't said anything to support them. I'd call it a click-bait, YMMV.
- sctb 10y agoWe updated the title from ‘Microsoft CEO hints at Surface phone with talk of an “ultimate mobile device”’, which breaks the guidelines by editorializing.
- joshmn 10y agoIf it's at all possible to consider Microsoft the "new Apple" (at least as far as hardware goes), it's worth a thought: Will Microsoft do what we've been asking Apple to do with the iPad Pro all along: give it a real OS. Obviously, it wouldn't be an iPad Pro form factor, and Surface already runs Windows 10. But I'm sure you're following. A Windows Phone with the ability to run ("native") Windows software would be an incredibly interesting play. Asus ZenPhone houses an Intel Atom... Windows also has their little Linux thing... Android is Linux-based... Project Astoria was a thing... This could be really fun to watch.
- gressquel 10y agoI think they should push the Project Astoria part. I know they are worried people will stop developing Windows Apps but I believe if they can gain a significant mobile market share going down the Astoria part, developers will soon start to think "hey, I might just make a native windows app since so many already use my Android app emulated on Windows". The duopoly is being abused. I am a iOS developer and I hate the 30% cut they take off my income. Their appstore algorithm favours established actors even when their product is far worse. I have seen apps that doesnt even boot on iOS9 ranking higher in the search results page than mine. And lets not forget the Spotify vs Apple case. The consumers need a third mobileOS to bring some competition. It is becoming stale with Apple and Android.
- ocdtrekkie 10y agoAstoria was amazing, I have a phone with the dev build it worked on at home with some Android apps on it. Ran great... Well, as great as Android apps run.
- joshmn 10y agoWebOS, how I miss you.
- micaksica 10y agoWebOS was far ahead of its time, and the shitty hardware all but killed it. FFOS seemed to be what WebOS was, but that didn't go anywhere, either. I think the big problem a new OS will have is compatibility with existing iOS/Android software stacks. You need to be able to run one or the other until you get market share for your own applications, because the majority of the populace wants their bread-and-butter Facebook, Snapchat, et al and these companies will not give your upstart OS any love until you have users.