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As a free service we will pretty strictly enforce abuse reports and take action on them. We're using a few methods to profile users based on their github accou
by OwainX 10y ago
As a free service we will pretty strictly enforce abuse reports and take action on them. We're using a few methods to profile users based on their github account/ssh key and other factors to block abusers once their identified. Dply servers are blocked from using SMTP ports to prevent spam.
Yes. You can create another server once the first expires but automating this process is not allowed and therefore we do not provide an API.
- ryao 10y agoWhat constitutes abuse? I imagine certain applications that would be fine with the server going up and down every 2 hours. That would effectively mean that they would have free service indefinitely. For example, a Tor bridge.
- rounce 10y agoShhhh, you're gonna ruin it for everybody else!
- oneeyedpigeon 10y agoWe were all thinking it.
- wheelerwj 10y agoOr bitcoin miners
- brianwawok 10y agoYou would mine maybe 1 penny per day. Not worth the click.
- wheelerwj 10y ago....that's not how fraud works. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7490766 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7490766 Just google aws bitcoin mining abuse and see what happens when shitty people have access to free servers.
- iancarroll 10y agoPretty sure it only makes sense when you can spin up AWS GPU instances, which you probably cannot do here.
- wheelerwj 10y agoWhen there are no costs, it makes sense spin up anything. You literally can't lose. It's just opportunity costs at that point.
- brianwawok 10y agoUnless you missed the no API part. If it takes a person 5 clicks to launch an instance, the reward has to pay for the cost. Why aren't people using AWS free tier to Bitcoin mine? Seems a bad prop.
- wheelerwj 10y agoI am sure that some people did try to use the free tier, and that AWS probably has some decent controls in place to monitor for this type of activity. They are also a MASSIVE company that can absorb loss much easier than a startup. [1] As far as the API goes, I don't know if you're aware of how hacking works, but not having an api has protected exactly no one ever. Calling your application secure because "it has a button, not an API" is completely absurd. [2] As far as costs, you understand that people do thousands of tasks on mechanic turk for pennies right? 5 clicks to make a penny or two isn't out of the question, EVEN WITHOUT AUTOMATION, when the cost for living in some parts of the world is egregiously low. [3] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6818015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6818015 [2] http://www.seleniumhq.org/docs/01_introducing_selenium.jsp http://www.seleniumhq.org/docs/01_introducing_selenium.jsp [3] http://online-job-work.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/mechanicalturk.jpg http://online-job-work.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/mechan...
- MaulingMonkey 10y ago
- OwainX 10y agoIn general abuse is anything that is illegal under US law, causes a disruption of service or is otherwise disruptive to our ability to run the service. As far as our TOS goes, if we say it's abuse, it is. We will be very strict in our enforcement. We're hoping that backend procedures and processes we have in place will help us to profile abusers and prevent them from using the services as our goal is to prevent abuse while making the barrier to getting started as low as possible for legitimate users. A tor bridge/relay might not be an issue but TOR exit nodes will almost certainly result in abuse complaints and action being taken.
- tedmiston 10y agoAre you saying one can / can't spin up a free two-hour server more than once?
- gpvos 10y agoLet me quote the parent post: > Yes.
- tedmiston 10y agoThanks for pointing out that I should be clearer. Really what I was seeking is to clarify the ambiguity in the parent post's "yes but sometimes no" answer. Presumably the creator has some limitation in mind such as one user can only spin up so many free 2-hour boxes per 24-hour period, 30-day period, etc. I don't think this was answered clearly as the current answer does not define any limitations which is presumably not reality or it would be abused.
- OwainX 10y agoRight now you can have one free server at any time. There is no daily limit currently. We do not provide an API and automating server creation is a violation of our TOS and would be considered abuse. When you need a server and can log in and fill out the form, you can create one :)