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>"cheese pizza" is 4chan slang This is not true actually. FBI and some forensic science experts used it internally way back before 4chan was even created.

by ss248 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago
I think I speak for a great many of us when I say that I'd like a citation for the idea that even 4chan considered "cheese pizza" a code for child pornography. Intellectually, it appears we're cruising along at approximately the "asphinctersayswhat" level of complexity.
- pavel_lishin 10y ago
  > I think I speak for a great many of us when I say that I'd like a citation for the idea that even 4chan considered "cheese pizza" a code for child pornography. I've seen it referred to, jokingly, o 4chan and other forums. For people who are baffled and/or puzzled, it's based on the acronym - child pornography - cp - cheese pizza.
  - napoleond 10y ago
    Yep, here's an Urban Dictionary entry from 2010: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20pizza http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20pizz...
- BickNowstrom 10y ago
  http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp > Post CP is an acronym in which CP can have a variety of meanings. Initially used as an acronym for 4chan posters to indirectly mention or request a child pornography thread, in later years the acronym became commonly associated with the posting of other subjects with the same first letters (C & P, most notably “Cheese Pizza”) to parody prohibited request threads or to troll those who hope to find child pornography. We Are Anonymous - Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous and the Global Cyber Insurgency (2013) Parmy Olson > There was also "u jelly?," a way of asking if someone was jealous, and "cheese pizza," or "CP", slang for child porn. More shrewd 4chan users would start discussion threads about literal cheese pizza, including photos of pizzas, and add hidden links to a child porn archive within the image code -- accessed by opening the pizza images in a text program instead of an image viewer.
- tothepixel 10y ago
  The usage of code words and symbols by Comet Pizza and Besta Pizza are mapped to an FBI document that was uncovered. There's also been strange phrases uncovered in the Podesta emails that seem to indicate that code words are in use. Additionally, people have found hidden data in JPGs sent around, which appear to be hashes that were placed after the closing JPG headers. Not sure I believe any of it, but it's definitely interesting.
  - xeeeeeeeeeeenu 10y ago
    Could you link that FBI document explaining pedo-slang that Podesta was allegedly using?
    - BickNowstrom 10y ago
      AFAIK there is no such document. The only sourcing for the slang terms was an anonymous 4chan post. “hotdog” = boy “pizza” = girl “cheese” = little girl “pasta” = little boy “ice cream” = male prostitute “walnut” = person of colour “map” = semen “sauce” = orgy https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/794284672675147776 https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/794284672675147776 The FBI document detailing the symbols can be found here: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols The similarities were rather striking. One pizza place even changed their logo shortly after the comparisons were drawn. This only added more fuel to the fire. http://i.imgur.com/GIRxh8r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GIRxh8r.jpg Myself being a huge fan of conspiracy theory I've seen this before: the minds become focussed on finding evidence, discarding Occam's razor, and mining for all the nuggets. What remains are coincidences that appear too good to be random. Compare with the "backwards playing record hidden messages" hype. Once someone points it out to you, your mind starts hearing it too. P.S.: The "hashes" found in the .jpg images were a dead end / the result of pareidolia.
      - DanBC 10y ago
        https://file.wikileaks.org/file/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf https://file.wikileaks.org/file/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf This document says a heart within a heart is symbol for GirlLover - symbolizes a relationship between an adult and a minor girl. Wait 'til the conspiracy theorists see the logo for a multinational ice-cream company: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=walls+ice+cream+logo&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?q=walls+ice+cream+logo&ia=images https://imgur.com/a/8Yo0M https://imgur.com/a/8Yo0M
xeeeeeeeeeeenu 10y ago
>FBI and some forensic science experts used it internally way back before 4chan was even created. [citation needed]
- akerro 10y ago
  >[citation needed] I was told wikipedia and Google work free of charge for everyone.
douglasisshiny 10y ago
I find this personally interesting. I work at the national center for missing and exploited children (ncmec), and in the exploited children division (ECD) we build systems to accept reports from internet companies, do analysis and send reports to law enforcement with said analysis. When we go out for lunch or whatever, we refer to child porn as CP. It's a bit awkward to explain we house the largest collection of CP.
- mercer 10y ago
  Odd question perhaps, but what would happen if you were hacked and that collection was stolen? Would it be considered distribution of CP? Would the legal ramifications for your organization be different from any other kind of data breach?
  - douglasisshiny 10y ago
    That's a fine question. I don't know the answer to it. Obviously our system admins take security seriously.

>"cheese pizza" is 4chan slang This is not true actually. FBI and some forensic science experts used it internally way back before 4chan was even created.

by ss248 10y ago

>"cheese pizza" is 4chan slang This is not true actually. FBI and some forensic science experts used it internally way back before 4chan was even created.

tptacek 10y ago

I think I speak for a great many of us when I say that I'd like a citation for the idea that even 4chan considered "cheese pizza" a code for child pornography. Intellectually, it appears we're cruising along at approximately the "asphinctersayswhat" level of complexity.

pavel_lishin 10y ago
> I think I speak for a great many of us when I say that I'd like a citation for the idea that even 4chan considered "cheese pizza" a code for child pornography. I've seen it referred to, jokingly, o 4chan and other forums. For people who are baffled and/or puzzled, it's based on the acronym - child pornography - cp - cheese pizza.
- napoleond 10y ago
  Yep, here's an Urban Dictionary entry from 2010: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20pizza http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheese%20pizz...
BickNowstrom 10y ago
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp > Post CP is an acronym in which CP can have a variety of meanings. Initially used as an acronym for 4chan posters to indirectly mention or request a child pornography thread, in later years the acronym became commonly associated with the posting of other subjects with the same first letters (C & P, most notably “Cheese Pizza”) to parody prohibited request threads or to troll those who hope to find child pornography. We Are Anonymous - Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous and the Global Cyber Insurgency (2013) Parmy Olson > There was also "u jelly?," a way of asking if someone was jealous, and "cheese pizza," or "CP", slang for child porn. More shrewd 4chan users would start discussion threads about literal cheese pizza, including photos of pizzas, and add hidden links to a child porn archive within the image code -- accessed by opening the pizza images in a text program instead of an image viewer.
tothepixel 10y ago
The usage of code words and symbols by Comet Pizza and Besta Pizza are mapped to an FBI document that was uncovered. There's also been strange phrases uncovered in the Podesta emails that seem to indicate that code words are in use. Additionally, people have found hidden data in JPGs sent around, which appear to be hashes that were placed after the closing JPG headers. Not sure I believe any of it, but it's definitely interesting.
- xeeeeeeeeeeenu 10y ago
  Could you link that FBI document explaining pedo-slang that Podesta was allegedly using?
  - BickNowstrom 10y ago
    AFAIK there is no such document. The only sourcing for the slang terms was an anonymous 4chan post. “hotdog” = boy “pizza” = girl “cheese” = little girl “pasta” = little boy “ice cream” = male prostitute “walnut” = person of colour “map” = semen “sauce” = orgy https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/794284672675147776 https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/794284672675147776 The FBI document detailing the symbols can be found here: https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols The similarities were rather striking. One pizza place even changed their logo shortly after the comparisons were drawn. This only added more fuel to the fire. http://i.imgur.com/GIRxh8r.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GIRxh8r.jpg Myself being a huge fan of conspiracy theory I've seen this before: the minds become focussed on finding evidence, discarding Occam's razor, and mining for all the nuggets. What remains are coincidences that appear too good to be random. Compare with the "backwards playing record hidden messages" hype. Once someone points it out to you, your mind starts hearing it too. P.S.: The "hashes" found in the .jpg images were a dead end / the result of pareidolia.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      https://file.wikileaks.org/file/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf https://file.wikileaks.org/file/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf This document says a heart within a heart is symbol for GirlLover - symbolizes a relationship between an adult and a minor girl. Wait 'til the conspiracy theorists see the logo for a multinational ice-cream company: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=walls+ice+cream+logo&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?q=walls+ice+cream+logo&ia=images https://imgur.com/a/8Yo0M https://imgur.com/a/8Yo0M

xeeeeeeeeeeenu 10y ago

>FBI and some forensic science experts used it internally way back before 4chan was even created. [citation needed]

akerro 10y ago
>[citation needed] I was told wikipedia and Google work free of charge for everyone.

douglasisshiny 10y ago

I find this personally interesting. I work at the national center for missing and exploited children (ncmec), and in the exploited children division (ECD) we build systems to accept reports from internet companies, do analysis and send reports to law enforcement with said analysis. When we go out for lunch or whatever, we refer to child porn as CP. It's a bit awkward to explain we house the largest collection of CP.

mercer 10y ago
Odd question perhaps, but what would happen if you were hacked and that collection was stolen? Would it be considered distribution of CP? Would the legal ramifications for your organization be different from any other kind of data breach?
- douglasisshiny 10y ago
  That's a fine question. I don't know the answer to it. Obviously our system admins take security seriously.