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What an amazing multi-level clusterfuck. You either need to ban /r/TheDonald, or just accept it for what it is, hold your nose, and walk away. I believe that
by Lazare 10y ago
What an amazing multi-level clusterfuck.
You either need to ban /r/TheDonald, or just accept it for what it is, hold your nose, and walk away. I believe that I'd choose the former, but if I had the power to do so I might feel differently.
But this is the worst possible thing. It makes Spez look horrible, it undermines trust in the site and the admins, it confirms all the nutty things the alt-right believes about Reddit, etc. It makes actually dealing with any of the underlying issues much harder; anything that the admins do which is or might look anti-The_Donald can now be spun as "another example of their bias". And since we've already got such a glaring example of that bias, the claim is now plausible in a way it wasn't before.
Should have just quietly banned the sub and moved on. Or not banned it and ignored it. Anything but this.
- taurath 10y agoThis is psychological gamesmanship. I punch you, you punch back, I win. I punch you, you don't punch back, I win. The only way for me to lose is if you punch back with such force that I can't punch again. Open and inclusive only works when there is an underlying good will or mutual benefit.
- jpgvm 10y agoThe sad part is he could have punched hard enough that they couldn't punch back, and it probably wouldn't have stirred up that much of a fuss. Simply mass ban instead of find and replace. Could go one step further and just ban the entire subreddit and move on with his life.
- taurath 10y agoRight, and they pulled the punch in order to appear fair and impartial. You cannot be fair and impartial against people trying to destroy you or take over - something many internet communities and media establishments need to learn.
- taurath 10y agoRight, and they pulled the punch in order to appear fair and impartial. You cannot be fair and impartial against people trying to destroy you or take over - something many internet communities and media establishments need to learn.
- korbasa 10y agoThis really puts China's censorship into perspective. There's just too many forces that want to make sure China doesn't become a superpower that spreading fake news would be a huge weapon against the government. Even "real" news would be spun in a way that could hurt the rising stability of the Chinese people so I can see why the government would rather just ban the foreign instigators.
- puranjay 10y agoYou would seriously ban a subreddit with bad jokes and a 14-year old's idea of a cult of personality while far, far worse subreddits promoting pedophilia, bestiality, and rampant racism exist? Since when did terrible jokes and politically incorrect opinion become reason to ban something?
- Lazare 10y agoYou're right, that does sound like a poor reason to ban a subreddit. Then again, maybe that's unrelated to why I would lean towards banning them?
- tinco 10y agoThey doxxed and physically harassed reddit moderators of subreddits they didn't like.
- theWatcher37 10y ago"They"
- deelowe 10y agoThe whole sub?
- rtpg 10y agoWhy not ban it all? It's not like these people are contributing good content to the site.
- puranjay 10y agoI can't believe I've actually had to defend my anti-censorship stance on HN of all places
- theWatcher37 10y agoBut it's not censorship when the "good" guys do it!
- Keepo 10y agoCan you please explain why you think /r/TheDonald should be banned? Should they be banned just because they have different political view than you do? Or is it because such opinions are not allowed on reddit as whole? This touches something that is bothering me when sites like reddit look like they are apolitical but clearly that is not the case. They picked side (which is completely fine) and in very non transparent way are punishing anyone who doesn't share their opinions (which is not). For the other side it then looks like its all part of hidden conspiracy when in fact it is just people running the site who cannot accept that not everybody shares their view on the world.
- jessedhillon 10y agoThey clearly and routinely fall outside the bounds of acceptable discourse, which are already wide on a site like Reddit. Edit: and routinely
- ww520 10y agoWhat are the bounds of acceptable discourse in Reddit?
- jessedhillon 10y agoOh, here's a thing you could've googled: https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/ https://www.reddit.com/help/contentpolicy/
- ww520 10y agoThanks for pointing it out.
- jessedhillon 10y agoI was sarcastic to you because your question was answerable in ten seconds of googling, which suggests to me an insincere line of questioning.
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