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In the words of Elon Musk "If we published patents, it would be farcical, because the Chinese would just use them as a recipe book". From high speed trains, to

In the words of Elon Musk "If we published patents, it would be farcical, because the Chinese would just use them as a recipe book". From high speed trains, to maglev, to wind turbines, to kickstarter designs, to brands, designs, even entire styles of european and american cities like Paris, Venice, & London, the Chinese are notorious for stealing and reselling knockoffs of technologies. They simply rebrand it as "Chinese innovation". Every group of people have a desire for power and world domination, they all just use different methods. And for the Chinese, intellectual colonization seems to be working.

toomuchstuff 10y ago
The Chinese are not known as the 'Jews of Asia' in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia and Philippines for no reason. The Chinese have used these tactics to ascend through the ranks of society and have come to dominate the politics and economy of those countries, much to the chagrin of the local people. If we don't stop this same tide of activity we're seeing in the west, particularly in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and California, Westerners will soon find themselves in the same plight of subordination as the Malays. Canada has already introduced measures on home ownership designed to curb the flow of Chinese money, perhaps it's time the US imposed a ban on Chinese takeovers of US firms.
- badsock 10y ago
  No no, you've got it all wrong. It's the wizards that we've got to worry about. Do you think they paid taxes on all of that gold in Gringotts? Do you think they respect immigration controls when they're flyin' around on their broomsticks? And then when you start talking about they censor our freedom of speech by wiping our "muggle" minds. The Chinese wizards, the Hungarian wizards, the Norwegian wizards, doesn't matter - they're all in it together, scheming and plotting in their giant invisible castles.
- dilemma 10y ago
  Why is this racist not banned yet?
  - chillacy 10y ago
    I appreciate that new throwaways are designated in green text, but I've been seeing a lot of them lately. It seems way too easy to create a new account, say some inciteful garbage, and never deal with the consequences.
toomuchstuff 10y ago
This is the story of how Chinese mathematicians tried to steal Perelman's proof of the Poincaré conjecture to further their own careers. They are ruthless and not to be trusted. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/08/28/manifold-destiny http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/08/28/manifold-destin...
chillacy 10y ago
Recall that the US "stole" the inventions of britain during the industrial revolution: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130228/01324622146/yes-us-industrial-revolution-was-built-piracy-fraud.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130228/0... Hollywood, one of the biggest defenders of IP today, is in california today so they could skirt Edison's patent royalties: http://mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drove-film-industry-california http://mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drove-fil... IP theft is how many industries in the united states rose to dominance... it's extremely hypocritical to cheat your way to success and then reprimand others for cheating. Of course there's the whole question of whether our system of IP is even reasonable in the first place.
- mark_edward 10y ago
  > it's extremely hypocritical to cheat your way to success and then reprimand others for cheating. Wouldn't this logic condemn all of US history [land theft, slavery, etc.]? Note: I don't think it's wrong to do so I just wonder where you think it stops.
  - chillacy 10y ago
    Indeed it does. Might often makes right, and contracts are only as good insofar as they can be enforced. Seen from that angle, IP law is just a tool that you use once you have IP and ignore until then.
    - mark_edward 10y ago
      Rather, I'd say that might makes. It doesn't make right, it just makes. Might makes right is just another version of a naturalistic fallacy, if i understand correctly. Therefore, people can still be held accountable for these things. Getting away with it doesn't make it right.
      - chillacy 10y ago
        Fair enough, I suppose history will look down on these acts even if they have high payout.

toomuchstuff 10y ago

The Chinese are not known as the 'Jews of Asia' in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia and Philippines for no reason. The Chinese have used these tactics to ascend through the ranks of society and have come to dominate the politics and economy of those countries, much to the chagrin of the local people. If we don't stop this same tide of activity we're seeing in the west, particularly in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and California, Westerners will soon find themselves in the same plight of subordination as the Malays. Canada has already introduced measures on home ownership designed to curb the flow of Chinese money, perhaps it's time the US imposed a ban on Chinese takeovers of US firms.

badsock 10y ago
No no, you've got it all wrong. It's the wizards that we've got to worry about. Do you think they paid taxes on all of that gold in Gringotts? Do you think they respect immigration controls when they're flyin' around on their broomsticks? And then when you start talking about they censor our freedom of speech by wiping our "muggle" minds. The Chinese wizards, the Hungarian wizards, the Norwegian wizards, doesn't matter - they're all in it together, scheming and plotting in their giant invisible castles.
dilemma 10y ago
Why is this racist not banned yet?
- chillacy 10y ago
  I appreciate that new throwaways are designated in green text, but I've been seeing a lot of them lately. It seems way too easy to create a new account, say some inciteful garbage, and never deal with the consequences.

toomuchstuff 10y ago

This is the story of how Chinese mathematicians tried to steal Perelman's proof of the Poincaré conjecture to further their own careers. They are ruthless and not to be trusted. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/08/28/manifold-destiny http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/08/28/manifold-destin...

chillacy 10y ago

Recall that the US "stole" the inventions of britain during the industrial revolution: https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130228/01324622146/yes-us-industrial-revolution-was-built-piracy-fraud.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20130228/0... Hollywood, one of the biggest defenders of IP today, is in california today so they could skirt Edison's patent royalties: http://mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drove-film-industry-california http://mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drove-fil... IP theft is how many industries in the united states rose to dominance... it's extremely hypocritical to cheat your way to success and then reprimand others for cheating. Of course there's the whole question of whether our system of IP is even reasonable in the first place.

mark_edward 10y ago
> it's extremely hypocritical to cheat your way to success and then reprimand others for cheating. Wouldn't this logic condemn all of US history [land theft, slavery, etc.]? Note: I don't think it's wrong to do so I just wonder where you think it stops.
- chillacy 10y ago
  Indeed it does. Might often makes right, and contracts are only as good insofar as they can be enforced. Seen from that angle, IP law is just a tool that you use once you have IP and ignore until then.
  - mark_edward 10y ago
    Rather, I'd say that might makes. It doesn't make right, it just makes. Might makes right is just another version of a naturalistic fallacy, if i understand correctly. Therefore, people can still be held accountable for these things. Getting away with it doesn't make it right.
    - chillacy 10y ago
      Fair enough, I suppose history will look down on these acts even if they have high payout.