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Does it? Really? An admin played a prank on a bunch of insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls calling him a pedophile with a dumb

by wfo 10y ago

Does it? Really? An admin played a prank on a bunch of insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls calling him a pedophile with a dumb silly find/replace rule. God forbid, next forums will start replacing words like 'shit' and 'fuck' with symbols to try and hide the truth of what we /really/ mean from the world. Who cares? Why is this a big deal? I am so unbelievably unimpressed with the seriousness of this, I feel like there is such an enormous effort to pretend this is "serious business" and "the integrity of reddit" (?) is somehow being compromised. We all knew this could be done. On any forum. Reddit is a silly place. Reddit is a place for people to shitpost memes and puns with throwaway accounts. The Donald is a subreddit that revels in trolling and messing with people, spewing toxic garbage nonstop. They riled up the main admin of reddit so much he did something childish -- a pretty impressive trolling effort. That's the end of this story as far as I can tell.

camperman 10y ago
> insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls This attitude is WHY YOU LOST THE ELECTION. > Who cares? Why is this a big deal? I am so unbelievably unimpressed with the seriousness of this, It is deadly serious. /r/pizzagate was just shut down for posting personal information. No proof was given. Reddit has users like Bill Gates who post regularly, it has interviewed the POTUS and countless movie stars. Just as a pedophile scandal threatens to engulf both Twitter and very senior members of the Democratic Party, the founder of reddit reveals that he fucks around with people's posts. What's to prevent him going into a user's history and falsifying it? We've had the head of the FBI in front of Congress talking about a Reddit comment for crying out loud, because it was about national security. His actions were extraordinarily poor judgement for an organisation that describes itself as a bastion of free speech.
- vehementi 10y ago
  > Just as a pedophile scandal threatens to engulf both Twitter and very senior members of the Democratic Party Ah.
  - internaut 10y ago
    I originally dismissed it before the elections, thinking it was all a whisper campaign but it has gotten legs after the election. That doesn't mean it has substance but I now believe infowars objectively did a better job reporting the facts of what is presently known than the New York Times's supposed exposure of the story. The NYT piece contains a well placed lie I am certain isn't true. There is enough circumstantial evidence to warrant a careful police investigation. I would put it like this: the odds are not good but the goods are definitely odd. To those who think "too obviously in the open to be true" I'd like to point out the case of Jimmy Saville.
    - DGAP 10y ago
      >Infowars objectively did a better job reporting the facts of the case than the New York Times Can you whack jobs stay on 4chan and Reddit please? It's bad enough you've taken over Twitter and the US government.
      - rtx 10y ago
        Being concerned about children is not a wack job. With yesterdays arrest in Norway and allegations about UK elites. Why do you think same can't happen in America.
        md_ 10y ago
        Assuming you're serious: Is there any evidence for the accusation? On its face, the whole claim appears to be entirely baseless and without merit, and its defenders appear to argue that it's hard to disprove so it deserves credence. Am I missing something? I read the subreddit (before it was shut down) and was quite unable to tell if it's just a big Internet in-joke or if the participants are serious. Are they serious? If so, why?
        camperman 10y ago
        It was deadly serious. But the evidence is purely circumstantial. However, the more you dig the more data you find. From another comment of mine: James Alefantis posts suggestive pictures of children on his Instagram AND He makes lewd comments about them AND Many of his friends do too AND Some of those friends are into weird things like making child-sized coffins AND There's FBI-confirmed pedophile codes and symbols everywhere AND Alefantis knows John Podesta WHO is into Spirit Cooking with Marina Abramovic AND Podesta hangs disturbing child abuse-style art on his wall AND He likes artists who produce disturbing images of abuse AND His emails have masonic images hidden in the attachments AS WELL AS Pictures of children with notes saying "Happy Birthday John" AND contacts of his mail him with messages promising "entertainment" from the young children in the pool AND He and his brother look EXACTLY like the photofits of two men who abducted Madeleine McCann in 2007 AND they were connected to the McCanns through a mutual friend who lived nearby AND .... There's literally thousands of people digging and all they do is keep throwing up more connections and suggestions that there is a pedophile ring hiding in plain sight.
- y_u_no_rust 10y ago
  it's a social media website, get over it.
verroq 10y ago
First they came for the_donald, and I did not speak out— Because I was not one of them You can write the rest of the poem yourself.
- orcdork 10y ago
  Eveyone was happy that a bunch of abusive racists weren't abusing any more? Is that the poem? It's a good poem.
- wfo 10y ago
  So in this analogy the CEO of a cat meme shitposting website is Hitler? And he's "coming for you?" That's what you're saying? We have an anti-free speech facist in the middle of public discourse already, he's the president elect and that's a lot scarier than the CEO of reddit being sick of people using his own website to scream at him and call him a pedophile.
Chromozon 10y ago
Very well-said. What's disturbing is how many sane people are getting up in arms over this. The trolls are going to have a field day. Unfortunately, it has already blown up and has hit all the major media outlets. This is a perfect example of something on the Internet done "for the lolz". But people who don't have an understanding of Internet culture just cannot grasp this concept.
- ycbI 10y ago
  Wow, I expected a lot more from this forum.
Accacin 10y ago
Reddit comments and posts have been used in investigations. In the UK a teenager was sentenced for writing some "racist" comment(I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just that it happened). Just think, the admins have the power to edit your comment as they see fit and you'll have no proof as your comment isn't even marked as edited. It's a scary thought.
- taberiand 10y ago
  Well maybe they shouldn't be used in investigations
  - Accacin 10y ago
    Well IMO they probably shouldn't, but then again people shouldn't be abusing their position either.
- joncalhoun 10y ago
  To clarify, are you suggesting that someone was indicted based purely on a Reddit post? If so, that in itself is scarier than anything else being discussed here. To assume Reddit is a unedited source of truth is just insane. Why people felt it was 100% tamper proof is beyond me. I wouldn't even trust public companies like Twitter to not have potential flaws like this.
  - angry-hacker 10y ago
    Yes, yes he was. [0] It's nothing new in UK, they are literally CCTV state now. Don't forget American folks that in most of the countries over here we don't have free speech ;) And in the light of this news that Reddit CEO edited comments -- it's scary stuff -- for fun or not. [0] http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-moment-web-troll-who-11918656 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-mom...
    - aktiur 10y ago
      Your source says he admitted writing the comments, which is much stronger evidence before a court than the original comment could ever be.
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gspetr 10y ago
Trump did AMA there. Imagine when next time Trump does AMA on The_Donald subreddit: - Mr. President, are you going to deport american citizens? - No, I am absolutely not going to do that. That gets ninja edited to: - I am absolutely going to do that. Can you imagine the uproar that would cause? We already have people in the media holding their breath for the next Trump's tweet - if something like this happened, there would be panic, hysteria, people having health complications. This is extremely serious. Even if this were to be rolled back, damage would already be done by then. That would be akin to screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
- BoorishBears 10y ago
  That's being needlessly alarmist. If anything, a more realistic vision of what will happen: -Asker: Mr President, <insert question> -President: <insert unpopular answer> -Fans of President: I BET THEY EDITED THE PRESIDENT'S ANSWER and a bunch of drama
  - mzw_mzw 10y ago
    Yep. It's not so much that Reddit management did something hugely awful in this, or are likely to repeat it. It's that it's opened the door to the suspicion of repeat behavior. Let a million conspiracy theories bloom! Really, the one this actually hurts is Reddit itself. To hurl in this stinkbomb when a good chunk of the site already considers itself at war with the management... Just profoundly stupid.
- wfo 10y ago
  Nobody's content was edited. Contentless shitposts saying nothing more than "fuck the reddit CEO pedophile" were edited. To say something equally contentless instead. I'll humor you and imagine your ridiculous doomsday scenario. Trump would say "that's not what I said, it was edited" and his supporters would stop using reddit and everyone would stop trusting it as a serious source. Crisis averted, win/win/win. Can we make that happen please ASAP?
  - basch 10y ago
netsec_burn 10y ago
Exactly my sentiments, and it only took place for an hour. I didn't mind at all, it was pretty entertaining, but then again I don't get drawn into the drama Reddit's userbase has frequently.
ben_jones 10y ago
It also came out in another thread that moderators have this power also. Moderators being random reddit users, not employees, can be expected to have much less integrity.
- Natanael_L 10y ago
  Wrong. Only admins, not moderators, can edit content. I should know, I'm moderating /r/crypto in Reddit. You can confirm it too by simply creating your own subreddit and look at what moderator tools you have available - removal and adding flairs is really all you can do.
samstave 10y ago
>We all knew this could be done. On any forum. Yeah but for how long have you been in IT/Computers/A Sysop/Sysad???? You do know that this is the mortal sin in IT -- abusing access powers to data and stealing it or fucking with it??? I had a guy ask me "Well cant you just read their email?" - ME: "Technically yes, of course, but I would be fired and thats the last thing you do in IT"
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ycbI 10y ago
> An admin played a prank on a bunch of insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls calling him a pedophile with a dumb silly find/replace rule. "All Trump supporters are dumb racist bigoted uneducated white hick hillbillies, fuck them with a rusty rebar."

by wfo 10y ago

camperman 10y ago

> insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls This attitude is WHY YOU LOST THE ELECTION. > Who cares? Why is this a big deal? I am so unbelievably unimpressed with the seriousness of this, It is deadly serious. /r/pizzagate was just shut down for posting personal information. No proof was given. Reddit has users like Bill Gates who post regularly, it has interviewed the POTUS and countless movie stars. Just as a pedophile scandal threatens to engulf both Twitter and very senior members of the Democratic Party, the founder of reddit reveals that he fucks around with people's posts. What's to prevent him going into a user's history and falsifying it? We've had the head of the FBI in front of Congress talking about a Reddit comment for crying out loud, because it was about national security. His actions were extraordinarily poor judgement for an organisation that describes itself as a bastion of free speech.

vehementi 10y ago
> Just as a pedophile scandal threatens to engulf both Twitter and very senior members of the Democratic Party Ah.
- internaut 10y ago
  I originally dismissed it before the elections, thinking it was all a whisper campaign but it has gotten legs after the election. That doesn't mean it has substance but I now believe infowars objectively did a better job reporting the facts of what is presently known than the New York Times's supposed exposure of the story. The NYT piece contains a well placed lie I am certain isn't true. There is enough circumstantial evidence to warrant a careful police investigation. I would put it like this: the odds are not good but the goods are definitely odd. To those who think "too obviously in the open to be true" I'd like to point out the case of Jimmy Saville.
  - DGAP 10y ago
    >Infowars objectively did a better job reporting the facts of the case than the New York Times Can you whack jobs stay on 4chan and Reddit please? It's bad enough you've taken over Twitter and the US government.
    - rtx 10y ago
      Being concerned about children is not a wack job. With yesterdays arrest in Norway and allegations about UK elites. Why do you think same can't happen in America.
      - md_ 10y ago
        Assuming you're serious: Is there any evidence for the accusation? On its face, the whole claim appears to be entirely baseless and without merit, and its defenders appear to argue that it's hard to disprove so it deserves credence. Am I missing something? I read the subreddit (before it was shut down) and was quite unable to tell if it's just a big Internet in-joke or if the participants are serious. Are they serious? If so, why?
        camperman 10y ago
        It was deadly serious. But the evidence is purely circumstantial. However, the more you dig the more data you find. From another comment of mine: James Alefantis posts suggestive pictures of children on his Instagram AND He makes lewd comments about them AND Many of his friends do too AND Some of those friends are into weird things like making child-sized coffins AND There's FBI-confirmed pedophile codes and symbols everywhere AND Alefantis knows John Podesta WHO is into Spirit Cooking with Marina Abramovic AND Podesta hangs disturbing child abuse-style art on his wall AND He likes artists who produce disturbing images of abuse AND His emails have masonic images hidden in the attachments AS WELL AS Pictures of children with notes saying "Happy Birthday John" AND contacts of his mail him with messages promising "entertainment" from the young children in the pool AND He and his brother look EXACTLY like the photofits of two men who abducted Madeleine McCann in 2007 AND they were connected to the McCanns through a mutual friend who lived nearby AND .... There's literally thousands of people digging and all they do is keep throwing up more connections and suggestions that there is a pedophile ring hiding in plain sight.
y_u_no_rust 10y ago
it's a social media website, get over it.

verroq 10y ago

First they came for the_donald, and I did not speak out— Because I was not one of them You can write the rest of the poem yourself.

orcdork 10y ago
Eveyone was happy that a bunch of abusive racists weren't abusing any more? Is that the poem? It's a good poem.
wfo 10y ago
So in this analogy the CEO of a cat meme shitposting website is Hitler? And he's "coming for you?" That's what you're saying? We have an anti-free speech facist in the middle of public discourse already, he's the president elect and that's a lot scarier than the CEO of reddit being sick of people using his own website to scream at him and call him a pedophile.

Chromozon 10y ago

Very well-said. What's disturbing is how many sane people are getting up in arms over this. The trolls are going to have a field day. Unfortunately, it has already blown up and has hit all the major media outlets. This is a perfect example of something on the Internet done "for the lolz". But people who don't have an understanding of Internet culture just cannot grasp this concept.

ycbI 10y ago
Wow, I expected a lot more from this forum.

Accacin 10y ago

Reddit comments and posts have been used in investigations. In the UK a teenager was sentenced for writing some "racist" comment(I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just that it happened). Just think, the admins have the power to edit your comment as they see fit and you'll have no proof as your comment isn't even marked as edited. It's a scary thought.

taberiand 10y ago
Well maybe they shouldn't be used in investigations
- Accacin 10y ago
  Well IMO they probably shouldn't, but then again people shouldn't be abusing their position either.
joncalhoun 10y ago
To clarify, are you suggesting that someone was indicted based purely on a Reddit post? If so, that in itself is scarier than anything else being discussed here. To assume Reddit is a unedited source of truth is just insane. Why people felt it was 100% tamper proof is beyond me. I wouldn't even trust public companies like Twitter to not have potential flaws like this.
- angry-hacker 10y ago
  Yes, yes he was. [0] It's nothing new in UK, they are literally CCTV state now. Don't forget American folks that in most of the countries over here we don't have free speech ;) And in the light of this news that Reddit CEO edited comments -- it's scary stuff -- for fun or not. [0] http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-moment-web-troll-who-11918656 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-mom...
  - aktiur 10y ago
    Your source says he admitted writing the comments, which is much stronger evidence before a court than the original comment could ever be.

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gspetr 10y ago

Trump did AMA there. Imagine when next time Trump does AMA on The_Donald subreddit: - Mr. President, are you going to deport american citizens? - No, I am absolutely not going to do that. That gets ninja edited to: - I am absolutely going to do that. Can you imagine the uproar that would cause? We already have people in the media holding their breath for the next Trump's tweet - if something like this happened, there would be panic, hysteria, people having health complications. This is extremely serious. Even if this were to be rolled back, damage would already be done by then. That would be akin to screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

BoorishBears 10y ago
That's being needlessly alarmist. If anything, a more realistic vision of what will happen: -Asker: Mr President, <insert question> -President: <insert unpopular answer> -Fans of President: I BET THEY EDITED THE PRESIDENT'S ANSWER and a bunch of drama
- mzw_mzw 10y ago
  Yep. It's not so much that Reddit management did something hugely awful in this, or are likely to repeat it. It's that it's opened the door to the suspicion of repeat behavior. Let a million conspiracy theories bloom! Really, the one this actually hurts is Reddit itself. To hurl in this stinkbomb when a good chunk of the site already considers itself at war with the management... Just profoundly stupid.
wfo 10y ago
Nobody's content was edited. Contentless shitposts saying nothing more than "fuck the reddit CEO pedophile" were edited. To say something equally contentless instead. I'll humor you and imagine your ridiculous doomsday scenario. Trump would say "that's not what I said, it was edited" and his supporters would stop using reddit and everyone would stop trusting it as a serious source. Crisis averted, win/win/win. Can we make that happen please ASAP?
- basch 10y ago

netsec_burn 10y ago

Exactly my sentiments, and it only took place for an hour. I didn't mind at all, it was pretty entertaining, but then again I don't get drawn into the drama Reddit's userbase has frequently.

ben_jones 10y ago

It also came out in another thread that moderators have this power also. Moderators being random reddit users, not employees, can be expected to have much less integrity.

Natanael_L 10y ago
Wrong. Only admins, not moderators, can edit content. I should know, I'm moderating /r/crypto in Reddit. You can confirm it too by simply creating your own subreddit and look at what moderator tools you have available - removal and adding flairs is really all you can do.

samstave 10y ago

>We all knew this could be done. On any forum. Yeah but for how long have you been in IT/Computers/A Sysop/Sysad???? You do know that this is the mortal sin in IT -- abusing access powers to data and stealing it or fucking with it??? I had a guy ask me "Well cant you just read their email?" - ME: "Technically yes, of course, but I would be fired and thats the last thing you do in IT"

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ycbI 10y ago

> An admin played a prank on a bunch of insane, out of control conspiracy minded screaming blubbering trolls calling him a pedophile with a dumb silly find/replace rule. "All Trump supporters are dumb racist bigoted uneducated white hick hillbillies, fuck them with a rusty rebar."