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That's two totally different concepts. It's one thing to "complaining about",,, generalizations. It's entirely different for a CEO to abuse his power and censo

That's two totally different concepts. It's one thing to "complaining about",,, generalizations. It's entirely different for a CEO to abuse his power and censor those he disagrees with on a social media site. He should be let go for this! He is literally putting words in peoples mouths!! It calls into question the credibility of the whole site.

giarc 10y ago
And yet Donald Trump is blocking his press core [0], calling for an end to SNL because they made fun of him [1], telling CNN execs that they are all liars [2], revoking credentials of the Washington Post [3] among many others [4]. Sure, the reddit CEO doing it is bad... the president elect though... 0. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/journalists-president-elect-donald-trump-press-freedom-blocked-media-a7410806.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election... 1. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787612552654155776 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/78761255265415577... 2. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/22/13714052/donald-trump-nyt-media-fight-network http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/22/13714052/d... 3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-revokes-post-press-credentials-calling-the-paper-dishonest-and-phony/2016/06/13/f9a61a72-31aa-11e6-95c0-2a6873031302_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-revokes... 4. http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/14/media/donald-trump-media-blacklist/ http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/14/media/donald-trump-media-bla...
- gamechangr 10y ago
  Yeah - but imagine that Paul Graham w HN for example disagreed with your position. Let's say that instead of allowing you to express this last comment - he used his admin privileges and made your comment PRO trump. Do you see the difference? Having a strong opposing - even annoying - demanding - opinion is not the same as impersonating others and censoring their words. HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE Does that make sense?
  - giarc 10y ago
    It does make sense... however my point is that the next president of the United States talking about manipulating media is much bigger deal than someone changing my comments on a site. Both are bad... one is much worse.
    - gamechangr 10y ago
      I agree it's bad, but it's almost assumed. In your opinion - did past presidents like Obama or Bush "manipulate media"? I think all presidents have and will. I would love to keep the naivety that CEO's of social media sites don't censor opposing views. Suspecting that they do and having proof... are two different things in my book!
      - chronic6l 10y ago
        If this happened in a pro-Bernie sub, I guarantee you would be furious - creating petitions and joining protests, oh wait.
    - cargo8 10y ago
      I think we can agree to disagree on which is worse. The next president is making a bunch of public actions that will be critiqued, audited, and probably checked / balanced as the government was set up to do. The CEO of reddit is SECRETLY tampering / modifying the "speech" and content of private citizens without any checks, balances, or even repercussions (so far). I'd also argue that reddit has a more direct engagement model with private citizens that makes this hit closer to home (i.e. if we actually were real-life friends, or internet buddies for years, and one of our messages/comments to each other was modified that could cause far more direct impact — e.g. "you" convince me to commit a crime because you have my trust as a "personal" friend) I'm honestly surprised he publicly admitted to it at all, and I'd further be shocked if he doesn't end up stepping down because of this incident.
      - giarc 10y ago
        Except Trump is doing it secretly. Many of the banned press members don't find out until they try to enter a press conference. We only know about it because they come out and say "Trumps security officials blocked me from entering". It's not like there is a list of who is allowed and who is not that is publically available. I guess my true point is the hypocrisy of T_D users complaining about spez's actions when the man they are so fond of is doing the same. Except he's the president.

giarc 10y ago

And yet Donald Trump is blocking his press core [0], calling for an end to SNL because they made fun of him [1], telling CNN execs that they are all liars [2], revoking credentials of the Washington Post [3] among many others [4]. Sure, the reddit CEO doing it is bad... the president elect though... 0. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/journalists-president-elect-donald-trump-press-freedom-blocked-media-a7410806.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election... 1. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787612552654155776 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/78761255265415577... 2. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/22/13714052/donald-trump-nyt-media-fight-network http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/22/13714052/d... 3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-revokes-post-press-credentials-calling-the-paper-dishonest-and-phony/2016/06/13/f9a61a72-31aa-11e6-95c0-2a6873031302_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-revokes... 4. http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/14/media/donald-trump-media-blacklist/ http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/14/media/donald-trump-media-bla...

gamechangr 10y ago
Yeah - but imagine that Paul Graham w HN for example disagreed with your position. Let's say that instead of allowing you to express this last comment - he used his admin privileges and made your comment PRO trump. Do you see the difference? Having a strong opposing - even annoying - demanding - opinion is not the same as impersonating others and censoring their words. HUGE HUGE DIFFERENCE Does that make sense?
- giarc 10y ago
  It does make sense... however my point is that the next president of the United States talking about manipulating media is much bigger deal than someone changing my comments on a site. Both are bad... one is much worse.
  - gamechangr 10y ago
    I agree it's bad, but it's almost assumed. In your opinion - did past presidents like Obama or Bush "manipulate media"? I think all presidents have and will. I would love to keep the naivety that CEO's of social media sites don't censor opposing views. Suspecting that they do and having proof... are two different things in my book!
    - chronic6l 10y ago
      If this happened in a pro-Bernie sub, I guarantee you would be furious - creating petitions and joining protests, oh wait.
  - cargo8 10y ago
    I think we can agree to disagree on which is worse. The next president is making a bunch of public actions that will be critiqued, audited, and probably checked / balanced as the government was set up to do. The CEO of reddit is SECRETLY tampering / modifying the "speech" and content of private citizens without any checks, balances, or even repercussions (so far). I'd also argue that reddit has a more direct engagement model with private citizens that makes this hit closer to home (i.e. if we actually were real-life friends, or internet buddies for years, and one of our messages/comments to each other was modified that could cause far more direct impact — e.g. "you" convince me to commit a crime because you have my trust as a "personal" friend) I'm honestly surprised he publicly admitted to it at all, and I'd further be shocked if he doesn't end up stepping down because of this incident.
    - giarc 10y ago
      Except Trump is doing it secretly. Many of the banned press members don't find out until they try to enter a press conference. We only know about it because they come out and say "Trumps security officials blocked me from entering". It's not like there is a list of who is allowed and who is not that is publically available. I guess my true point is the hypocrisy of T_D users complaining about spez's actions when the man they are so fond of is doing the same. Except he's the president.