3 ms·

I remember the last time we called on a government security solution for a problem that was perceived as too difficult and too critical for the private sector t

I remember the last time we called on a government security solution for a problem that was perceived as too difficult and too critical for the private sector that had been, up to that time, managing the issue. That's roughly how the Department of Homeland Security was born and the TSA was given the critical task of managing airport security where the failures happen. I wonder how Mr. Schneier thought that worked out? I cannot take seriously any open-ended demand for regulation in the name of safety that doesn't spell out pretty detailed proposals which would work in practice; what such regulations should address and what is off limits. The last time we did this, we sacrificed rights and gained little (if any) additional security; I think Schneier calls it "security theater". I want to know why he thinks his call will result in ANYTHING better than that fiasco before I'm even vaguely convinced that this is the right answer. Please don't read this as my not believing that there is a real problem and threat. I'm simply dubious of Schneier's answer at this point. "Any action" here is not necessarily the right action.

hackuser 10y ago
> the last time we called on a government security solution for a problem that was perceived as too difficult and too critical for the private sector that had been, up to that time, managing the issue. / That's roughly how the Department of Homeland Security was born I'm pretty sure the U.S. government has taken on other security issues since the DHS was founded in 2002.
- sbuttgereit 10y ago
  And what's your point caller? Your statement sounds like blind trust and assumption rather than any actual knowledge. Sorry, I can't do that. So let me run the exercise a bit... DHS... Patriot Act?... All that Snowden revealed stuff?... Invasion of Iraq?... Lybia?... Syria?... the U.S. Border?... OK... a bit glib, but the point is there: where are the successes where the government protected citizens successfully without a disproportionate reduction of rights of those citizens. Off the top of my head, I can cite about as many as you did. I imagine there are some out there... but the track record isn't so good.

hackuser 10y ago

> the last time we called on a government security solution for a problem that was perceived as too difficult and too critical for the private sector that had been, up to that time, managing the issue. / That's roughly how the Department of Homeland Security was born I'm pretty sure the U.S. government has taken on other security issues since the DHS was founded in 2002.

sbuttgereit 10y ago
And what's your point caller? Your statement sounds like blind trust and assumption rather than any actual knowledge. Sorry, I can't do that. So let me run the exercise a bit... DHS... Patriot Act?... All that Snowden revealed stuff?... Invasion of Iraq?... Lybia?... Syria?... the U.S. Border?... OK... a bit glib, but the point is there: where are the successes where the government protected citizens successfully without a disproportionate reduction of rights of those citizens. Off the top of my head, I can cite about as many as you did. I imagine there are some out there... but the track record isn't so good.