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There is Standing Rock drama ongoing for months. You would not know about it following so call 'real news' media. Enough said about fake news. And villan Faceb

There is Standing Rock drama ongoing for months. You would not know about it following so call 'real news' media. Enough said about fake news. And villan Facebook is only way you get news about events like these.

ChuckMcM 10y ago
That is not the same issue. There has been coverage of the Standing rock protests in all the major media outlets, the story dies because in part because of how it is presented (Native Americans notion that their idea of sacred ground isn't shared by the current legal holders of that ground) and in part because the risk of pipeline leakage relative to other risks (train derailments[1], coal plants dumping into rivers[2], the EPA uncorking tailing ponds[3]) Thus for much of the country they hear : "These protesters, with no compelling reasons, are preventing work on a pipeline that will help make your oil and gas prices stay low and create jobs for drillers and oilmen in the Dakotas." And the story falls flat on its face and nobody picks it up again. If anyone involved in the protest wants to get any traction at all on that story they need to figure out a way to get regular people angry about it. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=derailed+cars+leak+into+river&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=derailed+cars+leak+into+rive... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=coal+plant+dumps+into+river https://www.google.com/search?q=coal+plant+dumps+into+river [3] https://www.google.com/search?q=epa+accidental+release+in+colorado https://www.google.com/search?q=epa+accidental+release+in+co...
- desireco42 10y ago
  First there is barely any, what is happening there is military style intervention that same media would happily report if it was happening somewhere else. And secondly, when it gets reported, it is heavily spinned with corporate interests in mind. Protesters are not crazy, unreasonable people. They've been justified with recent accidents that happened, which is exactly what they were warning about.
  - ChuckMcM 10y ago
    I hear you but you missed my point. When protesters block roads and burn property you get a big police response, it happened in Ferguson it's happening in Standing Rock. The difference in news coverage depends on WHY people are blocking streets and burning things. In Ferguson the viewing/reading/listening public could relate police killing an unarmed black civilian by a nearly all white police force with race relation issues. In Standing Rock the people viewing/reading/listening to the news from there cannot relate to people demonstrating against a project that has met every legal obligation and answered every legitimate challenge. The folks on the ground don't like it, but the rest of the world doesn't seem to care that they don't like it. Nobody has been able to explain why we should care. And don't say "gee the police could do some military style intervention on you too!" which I would totally expect if a few hundred of us start burning things and blocking the roads. Explain to the public, like they are 5, why they should prefer to stop this pipeline rather than to build it.

ChuckMcM 10y ago

That is not the same issue. There has been coverage of the Standing rock protests in all the major media outlets, the story dies because in part because of how it is presented (Native Americans notion that their idea of sacred ground isn't shared by the current legal holders of that ground) and in part because the risk of pipeline leakage relative to other risks (train derailments[1], coal plants dumping into rivers[2], the EPA uncorking tailing ponds[3]) Thus for much of the country they hear : "These protesters, with no compelling reasons, are preventing work on a pipeline that will help make your oil and gas prices stay low and create jobs for drillers and oilmen in the Dakotas." And the story falls flat on its face and nobody picks it up again. If anyone involved in the protest wants to get any traction at all on that story they need to figure out a way to get regular people angry about it. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=derailed+cars+leak+into+river&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 https://www.google.com/search?q=derailed+cars+leak+into+rive... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=coal+plant+dumps+into+river https://www.google.com/search?q=coal+plant+dumps+into+river [3] https://www.google.com/search?q=epa+accidental+release+in+colorado https://www.google.com/search?q=epa+accidental+release+in+co...

desireco42 10y ago
First there is barely any, what is happening there is military style intervention that same media would happily report if it was happening somewhere else. And secondly, when it gets reported, it is heavily spinned with corporate interests in mind. Protesters are not crazy, unreasonable people. They've been justified with recent accidents that happened, which is exactly what they were warning about.
- ChuckMcM 10y ago
  I hear you but you missed my point. When protesters block roads and burn property you get a big police response, it happened in Ferguson it's happening in Standing Rock. The difference in news coverage depends on WHY people are blocking streets and burning things. In Ferguson the viewing/reading/listening public could relate police killing an unarmed black civilian by a nearly all white police force with race relation issues. In Standing Rock the people viewing/reading/listening to the news from there cannot relate to people demonstrating against a project that has met every legal obligation and answered every legitimate challenge. The folks on the ground don't like it, but the rest of the world doesn't seem to care that they don't like it. Nobody has been able to explain why we should care. And don't say "gee the police could do some military style intervention on you too!" which I would totally expect if a few hundred of us start burning things and blocking the roads. Explain to the public, like they are 5, why they should prefer to stop this pipeline rather than to build it.