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Genius = "TheFunded.com for employees to privately rate their employers"

by jamesshamenski 16y ago

pchristensen 16y ago
http://coderific.com/ http://coderific.com/
- dalore 16y ago
  Seems like it needs more data. I found 0 reviews for a company as big as Adobe.
madebylaw 16y ago
What is meant by privately here? Does it mean you can rate the employers anonymously? Does it mean the ratings are behind a login/paywall? It doesn't make sense if it was completely private, otherwise, how could potential employees benefit? What's wrong with something like this, for example? http://www.jobvent.com/ http://www.jobvent.com/
- jackowayed 16y ago
  I assumed he meant anonymously. Jobvent looks like more-or-less the same basic idea. One issue with translating this idea to startups is that if it's a small enough startup, they might be able to tell who you are. You might be the only person who's ever quit that startup, or there might be few enough that they can tell anyway. This could cause issues where companies threaten to give bad recommendations to future employers if people use the site, or something.
2bit 16y ago
http://glassdoor.com http://glassdoor.com
- tibbon 16y ago
  Here's the thing- at some small companies that still doesn't really work. I can't put anything out there about my current company like that because it would be painfully obvious (even if anonymous) that it was me.
petekazanjy 16y ago
This is actually one of the use cases we're most proud about on Unvarnished ( Community-powered professional reviews http://www.getunvarnished.com http://www.getunvarnished.com ): the ability for information about hiring managers to float as well as information about employees. So if a boss has high turnover rates under him, the idea would be that the reason why could float on his Unvarnished profile, such that would-be employees can get this information from the market before signing up to work for him. Awesome hiring managers should get credit for being awesome. Bad hiring managers should not be able to hide behind information asymmetries. So too with employees. Information liquidity is a powerful thing!
- brerrabbit 16y ago
  >Awesome hiring managers should get credit for being awesome. Highly unlikely considering what you have created. Anonymity and credibility are mutually exclusive. What you have here is a libel engine.
- btilly 16y ago
  I heard about you guys on NPR, but didn't call in because I was driving. I have a few concerns. 1. Your basic value proposition rests on getting people to pay money to have the ability to respond to things said about them. That's going to leave a bad taste in people's mouths. 2. Many people (like me) have deliberately chosen to not join facebook. We can't even try to address issues we see. 3. Identity is much more complicated than you acknowledge. My name is Ben Tilly. I'm at Google. People by the same name can also be found in a US college, doing graphic design in New Zealand, and being a nurse in England. Just to name a few that come up off of the top of my head. How do you tell which Ben Tilly should be able to respond to a bad comment about someone named Ben Tilly at Rent.com? 4. Anonymity is not so easy to protect. Only a small fraction of people comment online. A given manager only manages a small number of people. If a negative comment appears, frequently it is surprisingly easy to make an educated guess. If the comment is at all detailed, an analysis of writing style will usually confirm that guess. Unless a large fraction of people in your environment are commenting, the level of anonymity is limited. (Particularly if the boss can get access to proxy logs saying who was visiting getunvarnished, when.)

Genius = "TheFunded.com for employees to privately rate their employers"

pchristensen 16y ago

http://coderific.com/ http://coderific.com/

dalore 16y ago
Seems like it needs more data. I found 0 reviews for a company as big as Adobe.

madebylaw 16y ago

What is meant by privately here? Does it mean you can rate the employers anonymously? Does it mean the ratings are behind a login/paywall? It doesn't make sense if it was completely private, otherwise, how could potential employees benefit? What's wrong with something like this, for example? http://www.jobvent.com/ http://www.jobvent.com/

jackowayed 16y ago
I assumed he meant anonymously. Jobvent looks like more-or-less the same basic idea. One issue with translating this idea to startups is that if it's a small enough startup, they might be able to tell who you are. You might be the only person who's ever quit that startup, or there might be few enough that they can tell anyway. This could cause issues where companies threaten to give bad recommendations to future employers if people use the site, or something.

2bit 16y ago

http://glassdoor.com http://glassdoor.com

tibbon 16y ago
Here's the thing- at some small companies that still doesn't really work. I can't put anything out there about my current company like that because it would be painfully obvious (even if anonymous) that it was me.

petekazanjy 16y ago

This is actually one of the use cases we're most proud about on Unvarnished ( Community-powered professional reviews http://www.getunvarnished.com http://www.getunvarnished.com ): the ability for information about hiring managers to float as well as information about employees. So if a boss has high turnover rates under him, the idea would be that the reason why could float on his Unvarnished profile, such that would-be employees can get this information from the market before signing up to work for him. Awesome hiring managers should get credit for being awesome. Bad hiring managers should not be able to hide behind information asymmetries. So too with employees. Information liquidity is a powerful thing!

brerrabbit 16y ago
>Awesome hiring managers should get credit for being awesome. Highly unlikely considering what you have created. Anonymity and credibility are mutually exclusive. What you have here is a libel engine.
btilly 16y ago
I heard about you guys on NPR, but didn't call in because I was driving. I have a few concerns. 1. Your basic value proposition rests on getting people to pay money to have the ability to respond to things said about them. That's going to leave a bad taste in people's mouths. 2. Many people (like me) have deliberately chosen to not join facebook. We can't even try to address issues we see. 3. Identity is much more complicated than you acknowledge. My name is Ben Tilly. I'm at Google. People by the same name can also be found in a US college, doing graphic design in New Zealand, and being a nurse in England. Just to name a few that come up off of the top of my head. How do you tell which Ben Tilly should be able to respond to a bad comment about someone named Ben Tilly at Rent.com? 4. Anonymity is not so easy to protect. Only a small fraction of people comment online. A given manager only manages a small number of people. If a negative comment appears, frequently it is surprisingly easy to make an educated guess. If the comment is at all detailed, an analysis of writing style will usually confirm that guess. Unless a large fraction of people in your environment are commenting, the level of anonymity is limited. (Particularly if the boss can get access to proxy logs saying who was visiting getunvarnished, when.)