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I know of an organization that refuses to pay any of their contractors. It is currently facing several lawsuits. You'd think word would get around, but they've

I know of an organization that refuses to pay any of their contractors. It is currently facing several lawsuits. You'd think word would get around, but they've been doing it for years. They grind every single contractor for every cent and come out far ahead. Very combative way to live.

cookiecaper 10y ago
Until those lawsuits go through, anyway...
- infinite8s 10y ago
  They'll likely be settled and come with a non disparagement clause.
vadym909 10y ago
<You'd think word would get around, but they've been doing it for years.> If you aren't naming the organization yourself, why would you be surprised word hasn't gotten around.
- abandonliberty 10y ago
  You're right. Thanks for making me consider that. Unfortunately, as I am not supposed to know, there could be both legal and social impacts to people I care about if I divulged such information. There are other people in much better positions to do something about it. Your question forced me to understand this. Does some sort of repository for bad clients & companies exist? Could it? This isn't exactly what Yelp and BBB is for.
  - jameskegel 10y ago
    I am skeptical of your claims, and your deflection technique doesn't add credibility.
  - tinix 10y ago
    I bought a bunch of domains a while ago, to build something like this, and split-test the names, but haven't put any effort into it yet. Is there legit interest? It would have to be strictly third party generated content, otherwise it could be taken down due to various legal reasons... I think I would need to hire an attorney anyway. I'll probably let all the domains expire, except for "shit.business", that one is gold.
    - abandonliberty 10y ago
      Sorry, my messages may be delayed due to work and my noprocrast setting (20 minutes every 3 hours). Have you researched what currently exists? On a cursory search nothing came up for me. Must consider legal challenges and lack of demand as possible causes. The bad actors in the system will fight anything that would negatively impact them. Would need more aggregate support from good actors in total to make it viable.
      - tinix 10y ago
        Exactly... What about some kind of info protocol so there's no single head to chop off. Maybe it piggybacks the bitcoin blockchain for verification, and uses ipfs. Lack of community though... is hard to combat. It's also a chicken-egg problem. Build it and they will come? :)
  - raverbashing 10y ago
    Give a hint of the company then
ksenzee 10y ago
I also know of such an organization. David Fahrenthold did some good reporting on it in the last several months. The bad press doesn't seem to have done it any harm.
neospice 10y ago
Any tips for dealing with these types? They can usually be quite persuasive and pushy - stress-inducing.

cookiecaper 10y ago

Until those lawsuits go through, anyway...

infinite8s 10y ago
They'll likely be settled and come with a non disparagement clause.

vadym909 10y ago

<You'd think word would get around, but they've been doing it for years.> If you aren't naming the organization yourself, why would you be surprised word hasn't gotten around.

abandonliberty 10y ago
You're right. Thanks for making me consider that. Unfortunately, as I am not supposed to know, there could be both legal and social impacts to people I care about if I divulged such information. There are other people in much better positions to do something about it. Your question forced me to understand this. Does some sort of repository for bad clients & companies exist? Could it? This isn't exactly what Yelp and BBB is for.
- jameskegel 10y ago
  I am skeptical of your claims, and your deflection technique doesn't add credibility.
- tinix 10y ago
  I bought a bunch of domains a while ago, to build something like this, and split-test the names, but haven't put any effort into it yet. Is there legit interest? It would have to be strictly third party generated content, otherwise it could be taken down due to various legal reasons... I think I would need to hire an attorney anyway. I'll probably let all the domains expire, except for "shit.business", that one is gold.
  - abandonliberty 10y ago
    Sorry, my messages may be delayed due to work and my noprocrast setting (20 minutes every 3 hours). Have you researched what currently exists? On a cursory search nothing came up for me. Must consider legal challenges and lack of demand as possible causes. The bad actors in the system will fight anything that would negatively impact them. Would need more aggregate support from good actors in total to make it viable.
    - tinix 10y ago
      Exactly... What about some kind of info protocol so there's no single head to chop off. Maybe it piggybacks the bitcoin blockchain for verification, and uses ipfs. Lack of community though... is hard to combat. It's also a chicken-egg problem. Build it and they will come? :)
- raverbashing 10y ago
  Give a hint of the company then

ksenzee 10y ago

I also know of such an organization. David Fahrenthold did some good reporting on it in the last several months. The bad press doesn't seem to have done it any harm.

neospice 10y ago

Any tips for dealing with these types? They can usually be quite persuasive and pushy - stress-inducing.