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Isn't "fake news" and "white nationalism" mainly a smear used by the MSM (who are mostly on the loosing side of this election) against Breitbart?

by tomp 10y ago

exolymph 10y ago
There is literally abundant fake news, primarily distributed through Facebook. Actual lies. [0] Whether Breitbart is abjectly white nationalist is more debatable, likely by design. [0] In the practitioners' own words: 1) https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo?utm_term=.jxxn5nb49#.vwdbDb2E0 https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became... 2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/17/facebook-fake-news-writer-i-think-donald-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of-me/?postshare=9591479391803912&tid=ss_tw https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11... 3) https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-new-yellow-journalists-opportunity-comes-in-clicks-and-bucks/2016/11/20/d58d036c-adbf-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-new-yellow-j... 4) http://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/ending-fed-trump-facebook.html http://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/ending-fed-trump-facebook.h...
- tomp 10y ago
  I was asking about fake news specifically on Breitbart. I know they exist online, even on "reputable" news sites like CNN (so probably Breitbart as well), but to claim Breitbart is infested with fake news is patently absurd.
  - exolymph 10y ago
    As far as I know Breitbart has been misleading but not outright made-up. For example: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breitbart-trump-rally-cavaliers-parade-misleading-photo http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breitbart-trump-rally-... (I know TPM is a liberal site but that's not an opinion piece, just a recounting of what happened)
DasIch 10y ago
Breitbart itself describes itself very clearly as a champion for the neo-nazis that have re-branded themselves as "alt-right". Much of the news they provide is clearly misleading. I wouldn't necessarily go so far as saying Breitbart produces fake news, however there are sites that produce fake news. Completely made up stuff targeting conservatives to make money. This is a very real problem and it needs to be solved.
sanderjd 10y ago
No. Not two days ago, I listened to a self described white nationalist leader speak at length in his own words. He was not a made up smear, but a real person with real (awful) opinions, who now feels he has kindred spirits at the top of government. So, again, no, "white nationalism" is simply not "mainly a smear used by the MSM".
- tomp 10y ago
  Who do you have in mind? Can you share a source (video/article of the speech)?

Isn't "fake news" and "white nationalism" mainly a smear used by the MSM (who are mostly on the loosing side of this election) against Breitbart?

by tomp 10y ago

Isn't "fake news" and "white nationalism" mainly a smear used by the MSM (who are mostly on the loosing side of this election) against Breitbart?

exolymph 10y ago

There is literally abundant fake news, primarily distributed through Facebook. Actual lies. [0] Whether Breitbart is abjectly white nationalist is more debatable, likely by design. [0] In the practitioners' own words: 1) https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo?utm_term=.jxxn5nb49#.vwdbDb2E0 https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became... 2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/17/facebook-fake-news-writer-i-think-donald-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of-me/?postshare=9591479391803912&tid=ss_tw https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11... 3) https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-new-yellow-journalists-opportunity-comes-in-clicks-and-bucks/2016/11/20/d58d036c-adbf-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-new-yellow-j... 4) http://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/ending-fed-trump-facebook.html http://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/ending-fed-trump-facebook.h...

tomp 10y ago
I was asking about fake news specifically on Breitbart. I know they exist online, even on "reputable" news sites like CNN (so probably Breitbart as well), but to claim Breitbart is infested with fake news is patently absurd.
- exolymph 10y ago
  As far as I know Breitbart has been misleading but not outright made-up. For example: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breitbart-trump-rally-cavaliers-parade-misleading-photo http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breitbart-trump-rally-... (I know TPM is a liberal site but that's not an opinion piece, just a recounting of what happened)

DasIch 10y ago

Breitbart itself describes itself very clearly as a champion for the neo-nazis that have re-branded themselves as "alt-right". Much of the news they provide is clearly misleading. I wouldn't necessarily go so far as saying Breitbart produces fake news, however there are sites that produce fake news. Completely made up stuff targeting conservatives to make money. This is a very real problem and it needs to be solved.

sanderjd 10y ago

No. Not two days ago, I listened to a self described white nationalist leader speak at length in his own words. He was not a made up smear, but a real person with real (awful) opinions, who now feels he has kindred spirits at the top of government. So, again, no, "white nationalism" is simply not "mainly a smear used by the MSM".

tomp 10y ago
Who do you have in mind? Can you share a source (video/article of the speech)?