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How will they store every website anyone visits for a year when everyone starts using SSH tunnels?

dflock 10y ago
Unfortunately, the vast majority of people either think that this kind of legislation is fine - to catch terrorists/pedos, nothing to hide etc... or just don't know/care. If that wasn't the case, then legislation like this wouldn't get passed - and people wouldn't vote for the kind of politicians who promise to pass it. Statistically, ~0% of the population even knows what SSH is, let alone using SSH tunneling for everything. Thinking otherwise is, sadly, just a comforting fantasy.
- brokenmachine 10y ago
  I think the people who don't care about such draconian laws have very little knowledge of history, and even less ability to extrapolate from that knowledge.
brokenmachine 10y ago
You will then be on a list of people using ssh tunnels. If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about? Welcome to freedom! Papers please!
- nurettin 10y ago
  The problem is not knowing what to hide. Will I be investigated for visiting stackexchange websites? Will I be deported for using google docs? Where is the blurry line which separates police state from common sense?
  - JBiserkov 10y ago
    Common police sense state? Meaning the mental state of all UK residents knowing that police is "sensing" all of their actions - physical or virtual (but not the actual URL/page, just the domain, yeah right).
pasbesoin 10y ago
I've been using a commercial VPN (more likely for the general population than SSH tunnels). More and more sites and intermediaries are identifying this (via IP address and/or whatever else) and treating it differentially, in the past year. Not just Netflix, Amazon, et al., but also Cloudflare, archive.is, etc., etc. As this increases, where do you buy your exit point, and how well does it work for you? The Internet is less "flat" than ever. It's being parceled up, and user are being ever more boxed in -- tunneling notwithstanding. P.S. I forgot to mention increasing payment tracking and control. What happens when Visa et al. stop processing payments from the UK for such services? Banks block and even report attempted payment transfers. Paypal "suspends" you for an "illegal" type of payment? The increased monitoring we all face also enables more and more effective real-time control over what we do. Including tunneling.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of people either think that this kind of legislation is fine - to catch terrorists/pedos, nothing to hide etc... or just don't know/care. If that wasn't the case, then legislation like this wouldn't get passed - and people wouldn't vote for the kind of politicians who promise to pass it. Statistically, ~0% of the population even knows what SSH is, let alone using SSH tunneling for everything. Thinking otherwise is, sadly, just a comforting fantasy.

brokenmachine 10y ago
I think the people who don't care about such draconian laws have very little knowledge of history, and even less ability to extrapolate from that knowledge.

brokenmachine 10y ago

You will then be on a list of people using ssh tunnels. If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about? Welcome to freedom! Papers please!

nurettin 10y ago
The problem is not knowing what to hide. Will I be investigated for visiting stackexchange websites? Will I be deported for using google docs? Where is the blurry line which separates police state from common sense?
- JBiserkov 10y ago
  Common police sense state? Meaning the mental state of all UK residents knowing that police is "sensing" all of their actions - physical or virtual (but not the actual URL/page, just the domain, yeah right).

pasbesoin 10y ago

I've been using a commercial VPN (more likely for the general population than SSH tunnels). More and more sites and intermediaries are identifying this (via IP address and/or whatever else) and treating it differentially, in the past year. Not just Netflix, Amazon, et al., but also Cloudflare, archive.is, etc., etc. As this increases, where do you buy your exit point, and how well does it work for you? The Internet is less "flat" than ever. It's being parceled up, and user are being ever more boxed in -- tunneling notwithstanding. P.S. I forgot to mention increasing payment tracking and control. What happens when Visa et al. stop processing payments from the UK for such services? Banks block and even report attempted payment transfers. Paypal "suspends" you for an "illegal" type of payment? The increased monitoring we all face also enables more and more effective real-time control over what we do. Including tunneling.