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Why is there no talk of native advertising? They seem to be in a perfect position for it. I'm not going to disable my tracking blocker for any site, no matter h

Why is there no talk of native advertising? They seem to be in a perfect position for it. I'm not going to disable my tracking blocker for any site, no matter how useful it is. No matter how relevant and ad is, or how tasteful it looks, if it's doing any tracking, it is distasteful. Edit: Just realised I've been using the term "native advertising" incorrectly. I'm not talking about disguising it as part of the content, I mean hosting the ads themselves instead of dropping in an ad network script from a third-party.

layble 10y ago
Because the advertiser wants to track how many times the ad was seen, etc. Ad Servers / 3rd Parties provide the function of being an independent third party.
- the8472 10y ago
  put it on a subdomain. foo.tld should use ads.foo.tld and point the DNS to the advertiser. That way there's no cross-domain tracking via cookies and they can still track impressions.
  - boredprogrammer 10y ago
    This particular setup can/will leak cookies set on foo.tld to ads.foo.tld which leads to security concerns - only in your specific example though. If you were to use www.foo.tld and ads.foo.tld then you're good to go. While it is possible to carefully setup cookies that do not leak, its something you need to be careful of when recommending. That said, I do agree with your premise and wish native ad hosting like this happened much more often. Reading material: http://erik.io/blog/2014/03/04/definitive-guide-to-cookie-domains/ http://erik.io/blog/2014/03/04/definitive-guide-to-cookie-do...
- jasonkostempski 10y ago
  I'm well aware they want to, and usually do, do that, but they never should have been given that ability in the first place. SO is in a position to take that option off the table. I'm sure there are plenty of companies willing to give SO money to advertise their product with an image and a link, even if it means they have to trust SO to do what they agree to without being able to stick a nanny-cam in their website.
- shostack 10y ago
  You can have as server tags in many native setups if the publisher supports it.

layble 10y ago

Because the advertiser wants to track how many times the ad was seen, etc. Ad Servers / 3rd Parties provide the function of being an independent third party.

the8472 10y ago
put it on a subdomain. foo.tld should use ads.foo.tld and point the DNS to the advertiser. That way there's no cross-domain tracking via cookies and they can still track impressions.
- boredprogrammer 10y ago
  This particular setup can/will leak cookies set on foo.tld to ads.foo.tld which leads to security concerns - only in your specific example though. If you were to use www.foo.tld and ads.foo.tld then you're good to go. While it is possible to carefully setup cookies that do not leak, its something you need to be careful of when recommending. That said, I do agree with your premise and wish native ad hosting like this happened much more often. Reading material: http://erik.io/blog/2014/03/04/definitive-guide-to-cookie-domains/ http://erik.io/blog/2014/03/04/definitive-guide-to-cookie-do...
jasonkostempski 10y ago
I'm well aware they want to, and usually do, do that, but they never should have been given that ability in the first place. SO is in a position to take that option off the table. I'm sure there are plenty of companies willing to give SO money to advertise their product with an image and a link, even if it means they have to trust SO to do what they agree to without being able to stick a nanny-cam in their website.
shostack 10y ago
You can have as server tags in many native setups if the publisher supports it.