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So I am guessing they will also be banning all the porn on TV, in magazines, books and such as well? I mean 50 Shades of Gray is pure filth and only a depraved

by satysin 10y ago

So I am guessing they will also be banning all the porn on TV, in magazines, books and such as well? I mean 50 Shades of Gray is pure filth and only a depraved mind would choose to read something so disgusting and degrading to women. And to think children can buy this book at their local super market!! HORRENDOUS </sarcasm> for those who didn't get it. I am all for protecting kids from the extreme sides of porn but that is something a parent should be doing. You know like how they protect their children from drugs, alcohol, violent movies and games, the stuff kids shouldn't be exposed too. There are plenty of parental control systems available for computers to prevent accidental exposure (not perfect but good enough) should a parent want a more automated solution. But putting the government in control of picking what is acceptable porn for consenting adults and what is not is not the solution. I am a 30-something male. I have a wife. I look at porn. Big deal. People act like they don't care about porn but if that were true it wouldn't be such a huge business. Enough people pay for the crappy porn you get on TV for it to be a profitable business for god sake. Literally everybody looks at porn and I would be more worried about those who don't than those who do. This is a terrible step down a dangerous path and of course it is wrapped up in a "think of the children!" spin.

EliRivers 10y ago
I would actually be in favour of banning Fifty Shades. It was awful. The only good thing about it were some of the reviews that went to town on it :)
- stratosphere 10y ago
  I'm for banning whatever you like then.
  - EliRivers 10y ago
    Fittingly, your inability to partake in conversations beyond the strictly literal, combined with your kneejerk Daily Mail style reactions, renders you exactly the target audience for "literature" on the level of Fifty Shades.
- jambox888 10y ago
  It actually works as comedy! Try reading it out loud at dinner parties.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Agreed. Listening to movies without watching is generally enlightening. I drove Scouts in a van with a TV for the passengers, for years. I heard lots of movies without seeing them. So many are crap. The only one I remember that held up was Liar! Liar! surprisingly. Intelligent dialog; engaging and well-written.
    - jambox888 10y ago
      We've been bingeing on Archer recently - that would work really well as a radio show. In fact I suspect that's how they make it, someone just does the art later.
      - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
        Archer is smart and creative. Every line is fresh. My favorite by far.
throway11 10y ago
Generally I don't respond to comments on hn, but I've created this account solely to respond to this. The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem, there's isp level filtering but it doesn't work, part of the problem is image search, which embeds content into the page which means that it doesn't get picked up by the ISP's filter. I think the situation could be greatly improved by not embedding explicit content into image searches and instead fetch explicit content from a separate cache which could be easily blocked by ISP level filtering. I'm no expert though, I suspect there's a performance penalty if you stop embedding the content, but maybe that would be a reasonable sacrifice. As for protecting kids, I think we can agree that now that every kid has a smartphone with unfettered web access it's certainly more difficult to protect them from porn than it is to protect them from, say, alcohol where you generally need to prove your age etc. I am by no means saying that state imposed filtering is an appropriate solution, but I'm not entirely certain what other effective solutions are available - it's a genuine problem.
- Latty 10y ago
  > The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem It is? Teens are going to be interested in sex - porn is probably the safest way for them to explore that. Yes, clearly porn is a fantasy and has issues to do with expectation, but the answer to that is to educate them more, not try to keep them ignorant. This kind of thing is a lazy and stupid attempt to do something no one will go against, because if you say anything about it, you can be smeared for being pro-porn and anti-child, regardless of the truth.
  - throway11 10y ago
    > because if you say anything about it, you can be smeared for being pro-porn and anti-child, regardless of the truth. Fair, I agree that it can be seen as a shrewd move by government for exactly this reason.
- ionised 10y ago
  > The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem Why? And who took it upon themselves to establish this as fact for the rest of us?

by satysin 10y ago

EliRivers 10y ago

I would actually be in favour of banning Fifty Shades. It was awful. The only good thing about it were some of the reviews that went to town on it :)

stratosphere 10y ago
I'm for banning whatever you like then.
- EliRivers 10y ago
  Fittingly, your inability to partake in conversations beyond the strictly literal, combined with your kneejerk Daily Mail style reactions, renders you exactly the target audience for "literature" on the level of Fifty Shades.
jambox888 10y ago
It actually works as comedy! Try reading it out loud at dinner parties.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Agreed. Listening to movies without watching is generally enlightening. I drove Scouts in a van with a TV for the passengers, for years. I heard lots of movies without seeing them. So many are crap. The only one I remember that held up was Liar! Liar! surprisingly. Intelligent dialog; engaging and well-written.
  - jambox888 10y ago
    We've been bingeing on Archer recently - that would work really well as a radio show. In fact I suspect that's how they make it, someone just does the art later.
    - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
      Archer is smart and creative. Every line is fresh. My favorite by far.

throway11 10y ago

Generally I don't respond to comments on hn, but I've created this account solely to respond to this. The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem, there's isp level filtering but it doesn't work, part of the problem is image search, which embeds content into the page which means that it doesn't get picked up by the ISP's filter. I think the situation could be greatly improved by not embedding explicit content into image searches and instead fetch explicit content from a separate cache which could be easily blocked by ISP level filtering. I'm no expert though, I suspect there's a performance penalty if you stop embedding the content, but maybe that would be a reasonable sacrifice. As for protecting kids, I think we can agree that now that every kid has a smartphone with unfettered web access it's certainly more difficult to protect them from porn than it is to protect them from, say, alcohol where you generally need to prove your age etc. I am by no means saying that state imposed filtering is an appropriate solution, but I'm not entirely certain what other effective solutions are available - it's a genuine problem.

Latty 10y ago
> The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem It is? Teens are going to be interested in sex - porn is probably the safest way for them to explore that. Yes, clearly porn is a fantasy and has issues to do with expectation, but the answer to that is to educate them more, not try to keep them ignorant. This kind of thing is a lazy and stupid attempt to do something no one will go against, because if you say anything about it, you can be smeared for being pro-porn and anti-child, regardless of the truth.
- throway11 10y ago
  > because if you say anything about it, you can be smeared for being pro-porn and anti-child, regardless of the truth. Fair, I agree that it can be seen as a shrewd move by government for exactly this reason.
ionised 10y ago
> The availability of hardcore porn to young adults is a genuine problem Why? And who took it upon themselves to establish this as fact for the rest of us?