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You know I could be tricksy but I'll answer you straight. Even if I thoroughly believed the rather reductive propositions you make about male/female biology, I
by scandox 10y ago
You know I could be tricksy but I'll answer you straight. Even if I thoroughly believed the rather reductive propositions you make about male/female biology, I would still disagree with your conclusions.
You seem to want it both ways: you assert men are naturally violent, women are naturally manipulative, therefore we should accept this state of affairs and not be dishonest about it. At the same time you want us to reject the idea of rape culture, even though inherent in your assessment of men is an acceptance of exactly that.
Has it ever occurred to you that Political Correctness acts as training wheels for people who are exhibiting bad natural behaviours? And that this might be a good thing? We teach our children to have good manners, to share and to curb their violence. Of course, no adult wants to be treated as a child, but if there is a social consensus that somebody is infantile, then it seems appropriate to have a mechanism to put manners on them. That consensus is far from punitive. For the most part it doesn't restrict individual liberty.
Many contrarians and "rugged individualists" I know seem to fear that we will fall into a kind of group-think if we allow PC ideas to develop. This it seems to me is just the despair of autocrats. It's our social consensus. We get to form it together. But just saying "PC Crap" doesn't work. We live in a big complex society. It's going to just get more complex.
Many smart people are bored and repelled by these arbitrary social rules - I get that. But your natural repulsion is overcoming your judgement. These are systems. They can work well or badly. Contribute to them to support your values.
- saiya-jin 10y ago> Has it ever occurred to you that Political Correctness acts as training wheels for people who are exhibiting bad natural behaviours? I get your points, but I disagree on this one. How people adapt to be perceived by others on the surface - I couldn't care less about that. When they are rotten deep inside, broken and shattered to pieces - no matter how many correctness masks they put on, they are still same piece of s__t. I'll rather know straight upfront who I am dealing with, life is much easier. So yeah, PC is evil for me. Noble goals for sure, worst possible implementation how to get there.
- scandox 10y agoWell I don't want to sound more cynical than the OP, but the surface is actually what matters in the broader social context. Without shame, human society would be a violent anarchy. Some people have relatively good natures, but many do not. That is not even a criticism. After all, one cannot be ashamed of nature - only of the inability to control it. Absence of shame is like power: it corrupts. So whatever we call PC, we need something like it. That is my view.
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