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Google will now tell you whether a bar or shop is busy in real-time

28 points by jsingleton 10y ago

vuyani 10y ago
hmmmm, not sure about this. It could play out badly for business owners. how does google determine if a place should now be deemed full? how do they calculate capacity without understanding each business model and operational workflows? some stores might look full but actually service their customers in average times? they might have provisioning tills for when N customers are in store? What if some people do not use google services? If I was a business owner I would be angry at the possibility of google turning away potential customers because of what it thinks my business can handle without any accurate data.
- ErikHuisman 10y ago
  I reckon it is not busy-ness in absolute sense. But busy-ness relative to the rest of the opening hours of the place.
  - BoorishBears 10y ago
    It already does that
- fma 10y ago
  It is very scary. Google maps has the feature that tells you something is closed or about to close. If it's late, I get the info from the store website and know exactly when it closes. Then I get in my car and pull up Google Maps. There has been times Google would tell me it's closed already! I appreciate the assistance but think it should not be so confident in telling me it's closed. The average person may just forgo the trip. Maybe give the website to verify or give the phone number to call and verify.
  - resonantjacket5 10y ago
    Uhh what? I think that makes perfect sense for google maps to tell you if its closed. I mean would you really want to drive there and get to a closed shop?
    - fma 10y ago
      Uuh what? The store is not closed. Google maps says it is. Google maps has been wrong on closing times. Anyone who listens to google maps without verifying at the source will be basing their decision on wrong information, which leads to loss of business to store owners, which is why it's scary for business owners. Which is why if I go to a local business and feel it might be near closing time, I will verify at the source and not rely on Google maps.
  - resonantjacket5 10y ago
    Uhh what? I think that makes perfect sense for google maps to tell you if its closed. I mean would you really want to drive there and get to a closed shop?
- bogomipz 10y ago
  I could see this potentially hurting some businesses example - bars, many people won't want to go to bar that isn't "happening."
qntty 10y ago
Is it possible to order and pay for food as you're heading to a restaurant so it will be ready soon after you arrive (through seamless or something else)? I imagine this will be the norm someday soon.
- grepthisab 10y ago
  Sounds like what the Chipotle or Starbucks apps do right now.
- maxbrown 10y ago
  I use the Ritual app in Chicago for just that.
jsingleton 10y ago
First traffic, now this. Next up, how busy is your train? It's not clear how they get the data for this. Assuming it's the same tech as for minor road traffic then it probably uses Google's location services on Android devices.
ikeboy 10y ago
I feel like I've seen a startup doing something along these lines, which will probably die now that Google did it.
salmonlogs 10y ago
Shout out to http://www.avoidhumans.com/ http://www.avoidhumans.com/ which tells you which shops/restaurants are NOT busy. If you're ever on the road and need somewhere quiet for a phone call, this is a lifesaver. Hopefully they can integrate the Google data too to improve accuracy

28 points by jsingleton 10y ago

hmmmm, not sure about this. It could play out badly for business owners. how does google determine if a place should now be deemed full? how do they calculate capacity without understanding each business model and operational workflows? some stores might look full but actually service their customers in average times? they might have provisioning tills for when N customers are in store? What if some people do not use google services? If I was a business owner I would be angry at the possibility of google turning away potential customers because of what it thinks my business can handle without any accurate data.

ErikHuisman 10y ago
I reckon it is not busy-ness in absolute sense. But busy-ness relative to the rest of the opening hours of the place.
- BoorishBears 10y ago
  It already does that
fma 10y ago
It is very scary. Google maps has the feature that tells you something is closed or about to close. If it's late, I get the info from the store website and know exactly when it closes. Then I get in my car and pull up Google Maps. There has been times Google would tell me it's closed already! I appreciate the assistance but think it should not be so confident in telling me it's closed. The average person may just forgo the trip. Maybe give the website to verify or give the phone number to call and verify.
- resonantjacket5 10y ago
  Uhh what? I think that makes perfect sense for google maps to tell you if its closed. I mean would you really want to drive there and get to a closed shop?
  - fma 10y ago
    Uuh what? The store is not closed. Google maps says it is. Google maps has been wrong on closing times. Anyone who listens to google maps without verifying at the source will be basing their decision on wrong information, which leads to loss of business to store owners, which is why it's scary for business owners. Which is why if I go to a local business and feel it might be near closing time, I will verify at the source and not rely on Google maps.
- resonantjacket5 10y ago
  Uhh what? I think that makes perfect sense for google maps to tell you if its closed. I mean would you really want to drive there and get to a closed shop?
bogomipz 10y ago
I could see this potentially hurting some businesses example - bars, many people won't want to go to bar that isn't "happening."

qntty 10y ago

Is it possible to order and pay for food as you're heading to a restaurant so it will be ready soon after you arrive (through seamless or something else)? I imagine this will be the norm someday soon.

grepthisab 10y ago
Sounds like what the Chipotle or Starbucks apps do right now.
maxbrown 10y ago
I use the Ritual app in Chicago for just that.

jsingleton 10y ago

First traffic, now this. Next up, how busy is your train? It's not clear how they get the data for this. Assuming it's the same tech as for minor road traffic then it probably uses Google's location services on Android devices.

ikeboy 10y ago

I feel like I've seen a startup doing something along these lines, which will probably die now that Google did it.

salmonlogs 10y ago

Shout out to http://www.avoidhumans.com/ http://www.avoidhumans.com/ which tells you which shops/restaurants are NOT busy. If you're ever on the road and need somewhere quiet for a phone call, this is a lifesaver. Hopefully they can integrate the Google data too to improve accuracy