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In case you haven't seen it, Factor is a modern FORTH-like language: http://factorcode.org/ http://factorcode.org/ Funnily enough the most I've ever played wi

In case you haven't seen it, Factor is a modern FORTH-like language: http://factorcode.org/ http://factorcode.org/ Funnily enough the most I've ever played with FORTH was inside of Minecraft on an in-world computer: http://technicpack.wikia.com/wiki/Forth_language http://technicpack.wikia.com/wiki/Forth_language

js8 10y ago
I am aware of Factor, although I believe that conceptually, FORTH can only work in small systems. In a larger system, you can afford yourself something like Haskell (or at least Lisp) and the extensibility and proximity to hardware of FORTH will diminish in value, while the disadvantages will remain. In other words, with a bigger machine, you can go with more abstract language (distancing from hardware but keeping the extensibility), because the compiler/interpreter can be made more powerful. I also played with FORTH mostly in Minecraft Redpower 2 (but before that I also read Jones Forth, which is excellent), unfortunately, to prove my original point, people didn't like it and longed for BASIC.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Ah, RP2. On of the finest mods that ever came out of the fantastic modding scene around Minecraft. It was one of the four foundational mods in the scene: BuildCraft, IndustrialCraft (and later IC2), Better Than Wolves, and RedPower2. Sadly, RP2 is dead, and with it the RP2 computer model, the likes of which will likely never be seen again (for those not in the know: most mincraft mods adding computers of some sort essentially allow scripting in some HLL, and maybe a primitive DOS-style prompt, akin to ComputerCraft. Not so in RP2. RP2 computers were actually full emulated 6502s, with a FORTH monitor built in (although you could, of course, write your own). This should give you an idea of what made RP2 so special). Except not quite, because Eloraam is now working on RP3, which will actually be its own game, because she got sick of putting up with MC's limitations. Knowing Eloraam, it will be done by 2030.
  - Samis2001 10y ago
    Related to RedPower: OpenComputers. While it does come with Lua as the default OS / platform but it has support for arbritary computing architectures - both real and fake. I'm not sure if any has matured to the point of RP2 though (I know someome at least attempted a 6502 architecture at: https://github.com/gamax92/ocsymon https://github.com/gamax92/ocsymon)

js8 10y ago

I am aware of Factor, although I believe that conceptually, FORTH can only work in small systems. In a larger system, you can afford yourself something like Haskell (or at least Lisp) and the extensibility and proximity to hardware of FORTH will diminish in value, while the disadvantages will remain. In other words, with a bigger machine, you can go with more abstract language (distancing from hardware but keeping the extensibility), because the compiler/interpreter can be made more powerful. I also played with FORTH mostly in Minecraft Redpower 2 (but before that I also read Jones Forth, which is excellent), unfortunately, to prove my original point, people didn't like it and longed for BASIC.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
Ah, RP2. On of the finest mods that ever came out of the fantastic modding scene around Minecraft. It was one of the four foundational mods in the scene: BuildCraft, IndustrialCraft (and later IC2), Better Than Wolves, and RedPower2. Sadly, RP2 is dead, and with it the RP2 computer model, the likes of which will likely never be seen again (for those not in the know: most mincraft mods adding computers of some sort essentially allow scripting in some HLL, and maybe a primitive DOS-style prompt, akin to ComputerCraft. Not so in RP2. RP2 computers were actually full emulated 6502s, with a FORTH monitor built in (although you could, of course, write your own). This should give you an idea of what made RP2 so special). Except not quite, because Eloraam is now working on RP3, which will actually be its own game, because she got sick of putting up with MC's limitations. Knowing Eloraam, it will be done by 2030.
- Samis2001 10y ago
  Related to RedPower: OpenComputers. While it does come with Lua as the default OS / platform but it has support for arbritary computing architectures - both real and fake. I'm not sure if any has matured to the point of RP2 though (I know someome at least attempted a 6502 architecture at: https://github.com/gamax92/ocsymon https://github.com/gamax92/ocsymon)