I don't think Nate's twitter post and associated language are the right way to have a conversation as serious as this one. The people making the claims are not

I don't think Nate's twitter post and associated language are the right way to have a conversation as serious as this one. The people making the claims are not just slinging "BS" to be "debunked", they are experts who have credibility to lose by making claims without evidence, and I think it's worth hearing more from them before writing them off.