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One day I will comprehend how Nate Silver has managed to be, in one election cycle, vilified for both being TOO bullish on Trump's chances, and then just as equ

by Sebguer 10y ago

One day I will comprehend how Nate Silver has managed to be, in one election cycle, vilified for both being TOO bullish on Trump's chances, and then just as equally vilified for not saying Trump would outright win.

pfarnsworth 10y ago
It's the same way that Progressive Liberals call Obama a fascist, but Conservatives call him a socialist. It obviously can't be both, yet both sides strenuously believe it.
- vacri 10y ago
  In American parlance, the Nazis were socialist ("it's even in the name"), so fascists and socialists can cohabitate in the same party.
  - umanwizard 10y ago
    Fascism isn't really "far right" in the same way socialism and communism are "far left". Fascists believe in a mix of typically far-right and typically far-left ideas. You need more than one dimension (probably at least three or four) to fit fascism into the political spectrum. So if one of your axes is "economic protectionism", another is "level of state intervention in the economy" and a third is "nationalism", and fascism is pegged to the max on all of those, it's not too unreasonable to call it "national" (because of the first and third axes) and "socialist" (because of the second).
    - cortesoft 10y ago
      It is almost as if all combinations of political and economic systems can't be mapped to a one dimensional spectrum...
      - myowncrapulence 10y ago
        Yeah but maintaining America's rigid dichotomy ensures we never progress outside entrenched corporate interests.
rdtsc 10y ago
As they say, if both sides all of the sudden hate you, you must be doing something right.
serge2k 10y ago
The argument would be that he was hedging his bets so either way he could say "oh I predicted the clinton win" vs "Oh well, I gave trump a good chance". Anyway, the problem was the actual companies conducting polls.

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One day I will comprehend how Nate Silver has managed to be, in one election cycle, vilified for both being TOO bullish on Trump's chances, and then just as equ

by Sebguer 10y ago

pfarnsworth 10y ago
It's the same way that Progressive Liberals call Obama a fascist, but Conservatives call him a socialist. It obviously can't be both, yet both sides strenuously believe it.
- vacri 10y ago
  In American parlance, the Nazis were socialist ("it's even in the name"), so fascists and socialists can cohabitate in the same party.
  - umanwizard 10y ago
    Fascism isn't really "far right" in the same way socialism and communism are "far left". Fascists believe in a mix of typically far-right and typically far-left ideas. You need more than one dimension (probably at least three or four) to fit fascism into the political spectrum. So if one of your axes is "economic protectionism", another is "level of state intervention in the economy" and a third is "nationalism", and fascism is pegged to the max on all of those, it's not too unreasonable to call it "national" (because of the first and third axes) and "socialist" (because of the second).
    - cortesoft 10y ago
      It is almost as if all combinations of political and economic systems can't be mapped to a one dimensional spectrum...
      - myowncrapulence 10y ago
        Yeah but maintaining America's rigid dichotomy ensures we never progress outside entrenched corporate interests.
rdtsc 10y ago
As they say, if both sides all of the sudden hate you, you must be doing something right.
serge2k 10y ago
The argument would be that he was hedging his bets so either way he could say "oh I predicted the clinton win" vs "Oh well, I gave trump a good chance". Anyway, the problem was the actual companies conducting polls.