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I really appreciated the no nonsense, non-editorialized description of his experiences. Given the recent political climate, it is a nice change of pace. The ex

by asragab 10y ago

I really appreciated the no nonsense, non-editorialized description of his experiences. Given the recent political climate, it is a nice change of pace. The external monitor and wifi issues seem egregious, could these be OS related issues?

lvh 10y ago
Thanks! My understanding is that the TB2/3 dongle issue is a hardware limitation; although I'm hopeful the WiFi issues with older USB-C devices will go away.
illumin8 10y ago
From what I've heard, many USB3 interfaces have been causing Wifi and Bluetooth reception problems for a few years now. This is due to electromagnetic interference in the 2.4ghz. spectrum. I wouldn't expect a high-end Apple product to have this issue though; this is the type of problem you expect from cheap beige box PCs.
- rickyc091 10y ago
  I can confirm that my wifi goes out with certain USB 3.0 hubs as well on my 2013 MBP.
- mamon 10y ago
  How about using Wi-Fi in 5 GHz channel ? Should solve the issue, shouldn't it ?
  - illumin8 10y ago
    You're right, it should solve the issue, however, there are a couple things at play: 1. If you have a newer wifi AP that supports 5ghz, it might allow you to create a separate SSID for 5ghz, which is great, because now you can specify which network you want to connect to, and can choose the 5ghz. band to avoid this interference. Some routers don't let you specify, and use the same SSID for both bands, which means you can't really tell what you're connecting to. 2. Unfortunately, 5ghz. has a shorter range, so it will be less reliable in large houses, or where coverage is weak.
lars_francke 10y ago
Ever since I upgraded from Mavericks to El Capitan every time I plug in a USB 3 device my Wifi becomes flakey. There's lots of threads out there for people with the same or similar issue. Something is very weird in Apple & USB land.
joesmo 10y ago
Apple's track record with wireless is atrocious over the last five years. Over the last four OSs, over 3 different macs (07 mbpro, 12 air, 13 mbpro) the Bluetooth doesn't work for audio at all except sometimes when the speaker so close it's actually touching the laptop. (Works fine in the same space from my phone in case you're wondering if it's interference). Hell, even the Magic Trackpad 2 something they control completely and only works on OS X (currently) can't do Bluetooth without skipping (better but not fixed in Sierra). Same thing with RF dongles from Logitech which become completely unusable on OS X yet have no problems on Win/Linux. I haven't noticed WiFi problems per se, but I think two out of three wireless systems not working on Macs is enough. Of course, Apple ignores every single problem.

by asragab 10y ago

lvh 10y ago

Thanks! My understanding is that the TB2/3 dongle issue is a hardware limitation; although I'm hopeful the WiFi issues with older USB-C devices will go away.

illumin8 10y ago

From what I've heard, many USB3 interfaces have been causing Wifi and Bluetooth reception problems for a few years now. This is due to electromagnetic interference in the 2.4ghz. spectrum. I wouldn't expect a high-end Apple product to have this issue though; this is the type of problem you expect from cheap beige box PCs.

rickyc091 10y ago
I can confirm that my wifi goes out with certain USB 3.0 hubs as well on my 2013 MBP.
mamon 10y ago
How about using Wi-Fi in 5 GHz channel ? Should solve the issue, shouldn't it ?
- illumin8 10y ago
  You're right, it should solve the issue, however, there are a couple things at play: 1. If you have a newer wifi AP that supports 5ghz, it might allow you to create a separate SSID for 5ghz, which is great, because now you can specify which network you want to connect to, and can choose the 5ghz. band to avoid this interference. Some routers don't let you specify, and use the same SSID for both bands, which means you can't really tell what you're connecting to. 2. Unfortunately, 5ghz. has a shorter range, so it will be less reliable in large houses, or where coverage is weak.

lars_francke 10y ago

Ever since I upgraded from Mavericks to El Capitan every time I plug in a USB 3 device my Wifi becomes flakey. There's lots of threads out there for people with the same or similar issue. Something is very weird in Apple & USB land.

joesmo 10y ago

Apple's track record with wireless is atrocious over the last five years. Over the last four OSs, over 3 different macs (07 mbpro, 12 air, 13 mbpro) the Bluetooth doesn't work for audio at all except sometimes when the speaker so close it's actually touching the laptop. (Works fine in the same space from my phone in case you're wondering if it's interference). Hell, even the Magic Trackpad 2 something they control completely and only works on OS X (currently) can't do Bluetooth without skipping (better but not fixed in Sierra). Same thing with RF dongles from Logitech which become completely unusable on OS X yet have no problems on Win/Linux. I haven't noticed WiFi problems per se, but I think two out of three wireless systems not working on Macs is enough. Of course, Apple ignores every single problem.