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He has a brand new display (which in displays, is <5 years) and was going to connect it through a triple chain of dongles and adapters? Display <> DisplayPort-

He has a brand new display (which in displays, is <5 years) and was going to connect it through a triple chain of dongles and adapters? Display <> DisplayPort-to-mDP2 <> TB 3 to 2 <> USB-C to TB 3 <> MacBook What is going on?

mikeash 10y ago
It would just be a single cable plus an adapter. The monitor cable has DP on one end and mini-DP on the other end. Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector and is what the ports on the MacBook are. So it's: Display -> DP to mini-DP cable -> TB2 to TB3 -> MacBook. Or, one extra step than the old MacBook needed, if only it actually worked.
- lvh 10y ago
  Just wanted to confirm that you are correct :) The AppleCare support people suggested I had "too many dongles" -- cheekily, I agree; I would be very happy with zero!
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Since USB-C does DisplayPort directly, can you use a cable that has USB-C on one end and DP on the other end? Or is DP over USB-C sufficiently different that you need some sort of active adapter?
benvds 10y ago
I've been a mac user for 12 years, have my current retina macbook for 4 years, consider myself a pro user and want to buy a new "mobile computer". I'm no longer considering buying an apple macbook. OS X is great but with these prices I can no longer validate it's value anymore and looking into buying an xps.
- JustSomeNobody 10y ago
  I would love to see Dell publish some XPS figures before and after the new MBP announcement. I see a lot of people say they're considering one.
- xienze 10y ago
  Yeah they've completely lost me with this update. Want a 15" model with 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD (i.e., something that will last a reasonable amount of time)? Toss in AppleCare and you're looking at $3K. I have a mental barrier at around the $2200 mark -- I could afford it, but I just can't justify spending that much on a laptop with fairly pedestrian specs.
O5vYtytb 10y ago
It's so modular!
JustSomeNobody 10y ago
I would say "courage" but I am pretty sure I'd get down voted to invisible pretty quick. Monitors last a very long time. I think maybe that wasn't taken into much consideration.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  The thing that kills me is how many add-ons you have to buy on day one just to support any peripherals you've got. It's OK that Apple has bet big on USB-C/TB3, but the least thing Apple could have done (this year at least) is throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box. When I bought a Macbook Pro in 2011, the only thing I needed to buy were some miniDP -> [hdmi/dvi/vga] adapters. The standard set of ports and SD reader covered pretty much everything else I could possibly need. And, it included the 3-prong extension to the power brick, which was indispensible to me -- no client I went to ever gave me a cube to sit at with a power bar that was close enough or had enough room for the brick to plug in properly. Now, that extension is an extra $20.
  - xienze 10y ago
    > throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box. How do you expect Apple to sell them for $20 a pop then?

mikeash 10y ago

It would just be a single cable plus an adapter. The monitor cable has DP on one end and mini-DP on the other end. Thunderbolt 3 uses the USB-C connector and is what the ports on the MacBook are. So it's: Display -> DP to mini-DP cable -> TB2 to TB3 -> MacBook. Or, one extra step than the old MacBook needed, if only it actually worked.

lvh 10y ago
Just wanted to confirm that you are correct :) The AppleCare support people suggested I had "too many dongles" -- cheekily, I agree; I would be very happy with zero!
- mikeash 10y ago
  Since USB-C does DisplayPort directly, can you use a cable that has USB-C on one end and DP on the other end? Or is DP over USB-C sufficiently different that you need some sort of active adapter?

benvds 10y ago

I've been a mac user for 12 years, have my current retina macbook for 4 years, consider myself a pro user and want to buy a new "mobile computer". I'm no longer considering buying an apple macbook. OS X is great but with these prices I can no longer validate it's value anymore and looking into buying an xps.

JustSomeNobody 10y ago
I would love to see Dell publish some XPS figures before and after the new MBP announcement. I see a lot of people say they're considering one.
xienze 10y ago
Yeah they've completely lost me with this update. Want a 15" model with 16GB RAM and a 512GB SSD (i.e., something that will last a reasonable amount of time)? Toss in AppleCare and you're looking at $3K. I have a mental barrier at around the $2200 mark -- I could afford it, but I just can't justify spending that much on a laptop with fairly pedestrian specs.

O5vYtytb 10y ago

It's so modular!

JustSomeNobody 10y ago

I would say "courage" but I am pretty sure I'd get down voted to invisible pretty quick. Monitors last a very long time. I think maybe that wasn't taken into much consideration.

slantyyz 10y ago
The thing that kills me is how many add-ons you have to buy on day one just to support any peripherals you've got. It's OK that Apple has bet big on USB-C/TB3, but the least thing Apple could have done (this year at least) is throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box. When I bought a Macbook Pro in 2011, the only thing I needed to buy were some miniDP -> [hdmi/dvi/vga] adapters. The standard set of ports and SD reader covered pretty much everything else I could possibly need. And, it included the 3-prong extension to the power brick, which was indispensible to me -- no client I went to ever gave me a cube to sit at with a power bar that was close enough or had enough room for the brick to plug in properly. Now, that extension is an extra $20.
- xienze 10y ago
  > throw in a couple of USB-C to USB-A adapters in the box. How do you expect Apple to sell them for $20 a pop then?