Hmm, then our experience is quite different. Are you in US? my experience is solely in Europe, Switzerland and France to be more precise. Nevertheless those ex

Hmm, then our experience is quite different. Are you in US? my experience is solely in Europe, Switzerland and France to be more precise. Nevertheless those explorative scramble/easy climbs are indeed very nice experiences, but it depends. Matterhorn hornli route has only 4c french grade as at crux, but doing it with massive exposure, cold, in alpine boots/crampons and gloves makes it damn stressful and hard for us weekend warriors for example.