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I'm reminded of this: https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it i

I'm reminded of this: https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw https://youtu.be/pAEAbqrE5Zw Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. The surrounding question of the socialization of the internet is interesting, to be sure, but at the end of the day these are just animated emojis...

jsprogrammer 10y ago
It was interesting enough for FB to strip down and repackage https://github.com/bodymovin/bodymovin https://github.com/bodymovin/bodymovin
- omginternets 10y ago
  Your example speaks to my point: there's nothing new, innovative, technically challenging (beyond the norm). I really don't see what there is to write home about. This article reads as a PR announcement (which is okay) disguised as a technical achievement (which it isn't). They're "just" animations.
  - city41 10y ago
    Maybe not the biggest breakthrough ever, but it does fill a gap. Animations like this on the web really weren't possible without either using Flash or SMIL. A completely JavaScript based solution is very welcome.
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    - misio 10y ago
      I think the annoyance is the slightly smug tone of "Look what I invented. Vector animation and keyframes!" It's a cool implementation but it feels like they are claiming to have broken amazing new ground. To people that don't understand much of the background technology that's exactly how it reads.
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tdb7893 10y ago
It might not be novel but it looks to be useful and well supported, which is really what counts in JS libraries
seanwilson 10y ago
> Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. You don't think having an easy way to create high quality animations for any purpose that work on multiple platforms is interesting...? You might not find the current application of it interesting but that's like saying React isn't interesting because someone used it to make another Flappy Bird game.
- TheFarmingBunny 10y ago
  But react isn't interesting because they could have just modified custom elements via a polyfill and javascript extension. It would work mostly natively on newer browsers. Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers. Facebook seems to want to dominate with single-use, clunky libaries.
  - seanwilson 10y ago
    > Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers That's another approach which has it's own pros and cons. The approach from the article is obviously good if you have Affect Effects experts on hand. I'm not understanding why this isn't interesting to programmers who on a daily basis have to weigh up the pros and cons of different technology/library choices.
    - misio 10y ago
      >I'm not understanding why this isn't interesting to programmers who on a daily basis have to weigh up the pros and cons of different technology/library choices. Perhaps I'm showing my age, but this feels like this problem was solved a long time ago, forgotten or unused to a large extent and now re-invented. Flash was the clever web version back in the day but I can't see anything really new in this. I could absolutely be missing the point though. I never count that out.
nkozyra 10y ago
It's been a while since I've seen that episode, but ... wasn't that _the_ product in SV? This represents a small bit of UX that may be compelling enough to keep users engaged in new ways on their primary product (a relatively large social media site, ftr).
- omginternets 10y ago
  Yes. It's an analogy. The purpose of an analog is not to be exactly identical, otherwise it would be called an equality.
  - nkozyra 10y ago
    I'm sorry, it doesn't seem remotely comparable. Huge, complicated products are often made of seemingly inconsequential pieces. That SV piece was about an entire product made of an inconsequential piece of tech.
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jsprogrammer 10y ago

It was interesting enough for FB to strip down and repackage https://github.com/bodymovin/bodymovin https://github.com/bodymovin/bodymovin

omginternets 10y ago
Your example speaks to my point: there's nothing new, innovative, technically challenging (beyond the norm). I really don't see what there is to write home about. This article reads as a PR announcement (which is okay) disguised as a technical achievement (which it isn't). They're "just" animations.
- city41 10y ago
  Maybe not the biggest breakthrough ever, but it does fill a gap. Animations like this on the web really weren't possible without either using Flash or SMIL. A completely JavaScript based solution is very welcome.
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  - misio 10y ago
    I think the annoyance is the slightly smug tone of "Look what I invented. Vector animation and keyframes!" It's a cool implementation but it feels like they are claiming to have broken amazing new ground. To people that don't understand much of the background technology that's exactly how it reads.

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tdb7893 10y ago

It might not be novel but it looks to be useful and well supported, which is really what counts in JS libraries

seanwilson 10y ago

> Does it represent a lot of work by skilled technicians? Undoubtedly. Is it interesting in it's own right? Frankly I think not. You don't think having an easy way to create high quality animations for any purpose that work on multiple platforms is interesting...? You might not find the current application of it interesting but that's like saying React isn't interesting because someone used it to make another Flappy Bird game.

TheFarmingBunny 10y ago
But react isn't interesting because they could have just modified custom elements via a polyfill and javascript extension. It would work mostly natively on newer browsers. Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers. Facebook seems to want to dominate with single-use, clunky libaries.
- seanwilson 10y ago
  > Keyframes is just after effects animation in HTML5, a feature that could be implemented more natively using svg and a solution similar to this for older browsers That's another approach which has it's own pros and cons. The approach from the article is obviously good if you have Affect Effects experts on hand. I'm not understanding why this isn't interesting to programmers who on a daily basis have to weigh up the pros and cons of different technology/library choices.
  - misio 10y ago
    >I'm not understanding why this isn't interesting to programmers who on a daily basis have to weigh up the pros and cons of different technology/library choices. Perhaps I'm showing my age, but this feels like this problem was solved a long time ago, forgotten or unused to a large extent and now re-invented. Flash was the clever web version back in the day but I can't see anything really new in this. I could absolutely be missing the point though. I never count that out.

nkozyra 10y ago

It's been a while since I've seen that episode, but ... wasn't that _the_ product in SV? This represents a small bit of UX that may be compelling enough to keep users engaged in new ways on their primary product (a relatively large social media site, ftr).

omginternets 10y ago
Yes. It's an analogy. The purpose of an analog is not to be exactly identical, otherwise it would be called an equality.
- nkozyra 10y ago
  I'm sorry, it doesn't seem remotely comparable. Huge, complicated products are often made of seemingly inconsequential pieces. That SV piece was about an entire product made of an inconsequential piece of tech.

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