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Title : "your entire programming stack". I feel sad when I find that web programmers think there are only web stacks and "programming" refers only to web progr
by tharibo 10y ago
Title : "your entire programming stack".
I feel sad when I find that web programmers think there are only web stacks and "programming" refers only to web programming.
It is not entirely the case here, but the description of "a core system" as :
- Database layer
- Remote API layer
- Application layer
made me tick.
- pjmlp 10y agoSame here when they refer to front-end as a synonym for Web UIs, as if there wasn't quite a few of us doing 100% native UIs.
- k__ 10y agohow much percent of front-end devs do 'only' native UIs? I mean even most of the mobile people were web devs once...
- pjmlp 10y agoEveryone that does applications that require OS APIs, interaction with external devices, factories, embedded, air gaped desktops, care about the UI/UX of the user. Native UI isn't a synonym for mobiles.
- k__ 10y agoI know that. My point wasn't that it is a synonym for mobile. I just think there are much more web devs than regular ones AND that most of the mobile devs do (or did) web-dev (before).
- pjmlp 10y agoAnd your data source for it is?
- bitwize 10y agoBut those are niche applications. Web and mobile are driving the bulk of development these days, so development terms are going to reflect the concentration on Web and mobile.
- pjmlp 10y agoMobile is native, thankfully. And for web, not every business out there is sold to it, thankfully. There are tons of companies on this planet that only use the web for putting their contact details and that's it, many of which actually use FB for it. All their internal software is desktop based.
- jononor 10y agoThe phrasing/example in article is very web-oriented. But can you imagine interacting with your native UI toolkit as an Eve database, similar to how @browser works? Or your external devices over a protocol, similar to how @http or @mqtt works?
- pjmlp 10y agoYes, it was called Lisp Machines,Mesa/Cedar and Smalltalk.
- miguelrochefort 10y ago> I mean even most of the mobile people were web devs once... What makes you think that? Most native UI developers I know have never been web devs.
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- k__ 10y agoI don't know if I'm right, but I only met web devs who've gone mobile when the hype started
- marssaxman 10y agoYou do realize there is a lot more to computing than "web" and "mobile", I hope?
- fjrieiekd 10y agoI don't think this is true. I've worked a major mobile dev studio and not even 1 developer had a background in web dev.
- k__ 10y agoInteresting, I only met only one that had no web experience
- vardump 10y agoAlways watch out for using word always. Never say never.
- bertan 10y agoEve aims to be a general purpose language [1] to really replace your "entire programming stack" except for high performance, real-time applications. So, don't be sad :) [1] http://witheve.com/deepdives/whateveis.html http://witheve.com/deepdives/whateveis.html
- Liron 10y agoYeah, this concern crossed my mind when writing the post. Did you have a specific alternate "core system" you'd prefer I had written about?