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I think it's pretty clear from the article that there wasn't really any relevant content in the emails besides that Podesta was in contact with the restaurant o

I think it's pretty clear from the article that there wasn't really any relevant content in the emails besides that Podesta was in contact with the restaurant once about organizing a fundraiser. And it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway, there wasn't anything in Wikileaks that in any way even so much as implied that there was actually a child trafficking ring run by the Democratic party. I really hope you weren't trying to insinuate that the Wikileaks emails actually said that. The fact that there even needs to be a discussion about that indicates the sad, sad state of journalism and media in America. edit: Also, I'll note that the above commenter's account was created literally three minutes ago, likely to post the comment above. Insinuating that the Democratic Party is involved in a massive conspiracy to traffic children is NOT the type of thing that flies here on HN, so if you came here expecting to get into those kinds of discussions and spread that kind of misinformation, you're going to have a bad time.

vinayan3 10y ago
Do you know where the specific detail of child trafficking was manufactured? The NYT article doesn't say it. Also, did the people who made this up think it was a joke? I really don't see how else a hair brain idea like this could be made.
- Rebelgecko 10y ago
  I believe it came from an email ordering cheese pizza. Cheese pizza and child pornography both abbreviate to CP, so obviously Hillary Clinton and her staff are all ordering children to abuse. Out of morbid curiosity I looked at some of the other 'evidence', and it goes downhill from there (to the level of "so and so went to Portugal on vacation, and while he was in the country a young girl went missing"). The people involved at this point are either trolls or delusional. Probably a mix of both.
  - shostack 10y ago
    Thoughts on the Instagram "evidence?" I'm just as skeptical but some of those photos warrant a deeper explanation.
- DanBC 10y ago
  > Also, did the people who made this up think it was a joke? I really don't see how else a hair brain idea like this could be made. No, there are people who have their children removed who sincerely believe there's a shadowy organisation who steals babies for paedophile rings, or to sell babies. When you look at people who have CPS involved in their families you're going to find a larger proportion of people consumed by conspiracy theory. That sometimes makes them aggressive to people who want to make simple checks, which increases the amount of scrutiny the family comes under. I hate linking to videos because they often identify the children, but here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNBv6Z8ZSPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNBv6Z8ZSPQ A Google search for [cps pedophile] will return many many hits.
swang 10y ago
right before the election, /r/the_donald were constantly posting that podesta was the one who abducted madeleine mccann.[0] their "proof" were released sketches that looked a lot like podesta and his brother. only problem was, those 2 sketches were of the same person, and not 2 separate people. it was fucking bizarre. and pretty sickening what they were willing to post. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McC...
- akhilcacharya 10y ago
  We live in a post-factual society it seems.
  - puranjay 10y ago
    We've always lived in a post-factual society. You're only beginning to realize now.
  - matt_wulfeck 10y ago
    You can get a few thousand people to believe anything. Do you believe this is some kind of brave new world we live in? Or maybe the internet simply makes visible what's always been the case?
DigForTheKids 10y ago
Why not look at the evidence? Why just dismiss it? What if it were an actual pedophile ring and you just brushed it off, letting children continue to suffer?
- philippnagel 10y ago
  There is no evidence.

vinayan3 10y ago

Do you know where the specific detail of child trafficking was manufactured? The NYT article doesn't say it. Also, did the people who made this up think it was a joke? I really don't see how else a hair brain idea like this could be made.

Rebelgecko 10y ago
I believe it came from an email ordering cheese pizza. Cheese pizza and child pornography both abbreviate to CP, so obviously Hillary Clinton and her staff are all ordering children to abuse. Out of morbid curiosity I looked at some of the other 'evidence', and it goes downhill from there (to the level of "so and so went to Portugal on vacation, and while he was in the country a young girl went missing"). The people involved at this point are either trolls or delusional. Probably a mix of both.
- shostack 10y ago
  Thoughts on the Instagram "evidence?" I'm just as skeptical but some of those photos warrant a deeper explanation.
DanBC 10y ago
> Also, did the people who made this up think it was a joke? I really don't see how else a hair brain idea like this could be made. No, there are people who have their children removed who sincerely believe there's a shadowy organisation who steals babies for paedophile rings, or to sell babies. When you look at people who have CPS involved in their families you're going to find a larger proportion of people consumed by conspiracy theory. That sometimes makes them aggressive to people who want to make simple checks, which increases the amount of scrutiny the family comes under. I hate linking to videos because they often identify the children, but here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNBv6Z8ZSPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNBv6Z8ZSPQ A Google search for [cps pedophile] will return many many hits.

swang 10y ago

right before the election, /r/the_donald were constantly posting that podesta was the one who abducted madeleine mccann.[0] their "proof" were released sketches that looked a lot like podesta and his brother. only problem was, those 2 sketches were of the same person, and not 2 separate people. it was fucking bizarre. and pretty sickening what they were willing to post. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McC...

akhilcacharya 10y ago
We live in a post-factual society it seems.
- puranjay 10y ago
  We've always lived in a post-factual society. You're only beginning to realize now.
- matt_wulfeck 10y ago
  You can get a few thousand people to believe anything. Do you believe this is some kind of brave new world we live in? Or maybe the internet simply makes visible what's always been the case?

DigForTheKids 10y ago

Why not look at the evidence? Why just dismiss it? What if it were an actual pedophile ring and you just brushed it off, letting children continue to suffer?

philippnagel 10y ago
There is no evidence.