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This kind of thing is exactly why I will always support and use Mitsuharu Yamamoto's macOS Emacs port (https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac https://bitbucke

by sjm 10y ago

This kind of thing is exactly why I will always support and use Mitsuharu Yamamoto's macOS Emacs port (https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac), which has been consistently rock solid and committed to implementing nice to haves on macOS that this sort of political bullshit holds back on official development. Homebrew tap here: https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport

errx 10y ago
he is the author of the commit http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=9344612d3cd164317170b6189ec43175757e4231 http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=934461...
- Arnavion 10y ago
  And the commit seems to be in emacs-mac too - https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/commits/9344612d3cd164317170b6189ec43175757e4231 https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/commits/9344612d3cd... (Going by the author date, it was in emacs-mac first.)
- sjm 10y ago
  Well he seems to have re-enabled colour bitmap fonts at some point on his fork. I'm running his latest emacs-mac 25.1.1 @ head and it supports native emoji.
laughingman123 10y ago
The strong adherence to "political bullshit" is why such forks are possible. The Free software movement needs a few extremists like RMS.
- TheCoreh 10y ago
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Emacs was licensed under a more liberal license (MIT, BSD) such forks would still be possible. (Non-free forks would also be possible)
  - laughingman123 10y ago
    The question is can such licenses alone (without radical copyleft GNU) can sustain the free software movement's spirit. I side with camp which thinks copyleft is major way to push towards free software. It comes down to wether you ideologically support idea that software should essentially be distributed with the source code always. (RMS's view).
    - Sanddancer 10y ago
      I think software like LLVM, PostgreSQL, Xorg, Hadoop, etc have shown that you don't need a radical copyleft to push forward free software. You need something better than exists elsewhere, and this kind of behavior from Stallman holds back free software out of fear of bogeymen.

by sjm 10y ago

errx 10y ago

he is the author of the commit http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=9344612d3cd164317170b6189ec43175757e4231 http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=934461...

Arnavion 10y ago
And the commit seems to be in emacs-mac too - https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/commits/9344612d3cd164317170b6189ec43175757e4231 https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/commits/9344612d3cd... (Going by the author date, it was in emacs-mac first.)
sjm 10y ago
Well he seems to have re-enabled colour bitmap fonts at some point on his fork. I'm running his latest emacs-mac 25.1.1 @ head and it supports native emoji.

laughingman123 10y ago

The strong adherence to "political bullshit" is why such forks are possible. The Free software movement needs a few extremists like RMS.

TheCoreh 10y ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Emacs was licensed under a more liberal license (MIT, BSD) such forks would still be possible. (Non-free forks would also be possible)
- laughingman123 10y ago
  The question is can such licenses alone (without radical copyleft GNU) can sustain the free software movement's spirit. I side with camp which thinks copyleft is major way to push towards free software. It comes down to wether you ideologically support idea that software should essentially be distributed with the source code always. (RMS's view).
  - Sanddancer 10y ago
    I think software like LLVM, PostgreSQL, Xorg, Hadoop, etc have shown that you don't need a radical copyleft to push forward free software. You need something better than exists elsewhere, and this kind of behavior from Stallman holds back free software out of fear of bogeymen.