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Ok, so as much as I didn't vote for Trump, or Hillary, I think the media in general is fear mongering. Trump wants to replace ACA. He doesn't want to just say,

Ok, so as much as I didn't vote for Trump, or Hillary, I think the media in general is fear mongering. Trump wants to replace ACA. He doesn't want to just say, "Fuck it! We'll do it live". He want to repeal the law, while invoking a new one. While I admit that it's not a fleshed out plan, the website does provide reasonable guidelines for what his administration wants to perform. Republicans have, half-assedly, been trying to do the same in the House for years. Perhaps all of the saber rattling will lead to a coherent plan. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

maxxxxx 10y ago
The Republicans never brought forward any proposals for improvement but voted 40 times or so for repealing Obamacare. I don't think they have any plans other than letting the market fix itself and if you can't afford healthcare you just have to do without. In reality, American healthcare is just a big scam and ripoff. On my last trip to Germany my girlfriend had a problem with her eye. We went to an eye doctor there and paid 25 Euro out of pocket without insurance. Doctors in Germany don't starve but they have nice cars and houses. In the US she had recently several surgeries and every hospital bill has had massive errors in the range of thousands of dollars. It's just a racket. How about enforcing some standards of billing accuracy instead of allowing this kind of scam?
- Kopion 10y ago
  > The Republicans never brought forward any proposals for improvement but voted 40 times or so for repealing Obamacare. I don't think they have any plans other than letting the market fix itself and if you can't afford healthcare you just have to do without. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13678690/republican-obamacare-replacement-plans-explained http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13678690/r...
  - maxxxxx 10y ago
    Why didn't they vote for any of these in the last 8 years?
    - virmundi 10y ago
      Mostly because the House knew the Senate would not actually back the repeal, but they wanted to look like they were doing something for the folks back home. That's the saber rattling. Now, maybe, they will actually put forth a plan or a few plans. I think multiple approaches, with hopefully Democratic and other party input, should make for a better system.
  - mcphage 10y ago
    So they have a bunch of incompatible plans? When do they plan on doing all of the negotiation required to settle on one, when ACA is already gone? That's going to be a disaster for the millions of Americans on an ACA plan.
- rbritton 10y ago
  In my opinion, Obamacare tackled the wrong end of the problem. It was less a problem of not having insurance than one of uncontrolled billing. When a hospital can get away with charging $53 for a pair of non-sterile gloves [0], there's the problem. And that's just from the first search result -- there are literally dozens and dozens of other examples spanning years. [0]: http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/wildly-overinflated-hospital-costs/ http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/wildly-overinflated-hospit...

maxxxxx 10y ago

The Republicans never brought forward any proposals for improvement but voted 40 times or so for repealing Obamacare. I don't think they have any plans other than letting the market fix itself and if you can't afford healthcare you just have to do without. In reality, American healthcare is just a big scam and ripoff. On my last trip to Germany my girlfriend had a problem with her eye. We went to an eye doctor there and paid 25 Euro out of pocket without insurance. Doctors in Germany don't starve but they have nice cars and houses. In the US she had recently several surgeries and every hospital bill has had massive errors in the range of thousands of dollars. It's just a racket. How about enforcing some standards of billing accuracy instead of allowing this kind of scam?

Kopion 10y ago
> The Republicans never brought forward any proposals for improvement but voted 40 times or so for repealing Obamacare. I don't think they have any plans other than letting the market fix itself and if you can't afford healthcare you just have to do without. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13678690/republican-obamacare-replacement-plans-explained http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13678690/r...
- maxxxxx 10y ago
  Why didn't they vote for any of these in the last 8 years?
  - virmundi 10y ago
    Mostly because the House knew the Senate would not actually back the repeal, but they wanted to look like they were doing something for the folks back home. That's the saber rattling. Now, maybe, they will actually put forth a plan or a few plans. I think multiple approaches, with hopefully Democratic and other party input, should make for a better system.
- mcphage 10y ago
  So they have a bunch of incompatible plans? When do they plan on doing all of the negotiation required to settle on one, when ACA is already gone? That's going to be a disaster for the millions of Americans on an ACA plan.
rbritton 10y ago
In my opinion, Obamacare tackled the wrong end of the problem. It was less a problem of not having insurance than one of uncontrolled billing. When a hospital can get away with charging $53 for a pair of non-sterile gloves [0], there's the problem. And that's just from the first search result -- there are literally dozens and dozens of other examples spanning years. [0]: http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/wildly-overinflated-hospital-costs/ http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/wildly-overinflated-hospit...