Actually, reductio ad absurdum is precisely why self-determination is problematic, because it raises the question of where you draw the line between a nation th

Actually, reductio ad absurdum is precisely why self-determination is problematic, because it raises the question of where you draw the line between a nation that initiates its own sovereignty and a bunch of wackos who don't like taxes (all too common in this country). Secessionist movements typically underestimate the costs of separation. Like the UK post-Brexit, no one knows how an independent CA would relate to the rump US. Would it enjoy the free movement of goods, services and people? I doubt it. There is almost no basis to consider Californians as a separate people, which is usually what drives self-determination. I live in CA. We do not share a common language or religion or history distinct from our neighbors.