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Hypocrisy at its finest. Few months ago I installed Windows 10 and decided to try Edge. Here's how Google responded to that: 1) Every time I went to google.co

by Jerry2 10y ago

Hypocrisy at its finest. Few months ago I installed Windows 10 and decided to try Edge. Here's how Google responded to that: 1) Every time I went to google.com, I was presented with a notice that I should install Chrome and that I should set Google.com as my search engine 2) Google sent an email to my Gmail account telling me that I should install Chrome and use it instead. 3) Every time I went on Youtube.com, I was again pestered with notices that I should install Chrome. And if you're a Firefox user, you've probably noticed "set your search engine to Google" every time you search on their site. But being an Edge user is 10x worse. Google is THE WORST offender when it comes to pushing their own services. EDIT: Here's the email that Google sent me... just found it: https://i.imgur.com/aTChPib.png https://i.imgur.com/aTChPib.png

wnevets 10y ago
Wait, how is this hypocrisy? Google isn't the author of this article.
- firloop 10y ago
  You could make the point that this is standard industry behavior, and Microsoft deciding to market their browser this way isn't anything new or noteworthy.
  - PAN4SPK2WYWQF7Q 10y ago
    Well, perhaps people would not consider this as annoying if Microsoft advertised Edge for people who visit e.g. microsoft.com with another browser. Having a monopolistic position on the desktop market and using that is a different ball game.
    - firloop 10y ago
      I don't know, doing stuff like sending someone an email to switch browsers seems just as intrusive.
- NamTaf 10y ago
  The hypocrisy comes from the broader 'internet enthusiast' groupthink that says anything Edge or IE must be worse and that MS is horrible for doing this, but in the same breath they give far less criticism to Google for doing this with Chrome. Whether you agree with that view or not, it's understandable that the OP feels there's an element of hypocrisy not from Google but from the internet community as to how they view these companies' efforts to spruik their products.
mSparks 10y ago
This story led me back to test edge after a long wait for them to fix a million things. It seems they fixed a million things, and I got me a new default browser. Not sure how long it will last. But I've been on bing since the last time I got downvoted for complaining about google search. at least trying to copy the search link for http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/help http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/help doesn't result in: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi7uo7q97rQAhXDKiwKHZ57A7UQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesaurus.com%2Fbrowse%2Fhelp&usg=AFQjCNHDJjt6Vsb_47V_W70WbobORdEiqg&bvm=bv.139250283,d.bGg https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
- Jerry2 10y ago
  Edge will be a fine browser. It's fast and light. It's missing too many features to be the choice of power users but it's fine for regular users. I use Linux so my real choices are Chromium and Firefox so I don't use Edge.
  - mSparks 10y ago
    Vivaldi browser? Although thats still bugged to i believe.
  - vbezhenar 10y ago
    It's fun. I remember times, when Google Chrome was in beta and it was just a little more than webkit frame with tabs. Only distinguishing thing was speed, better security model and nice look. So I switched from Firefox to Chrome, because I didn't really need all that power. So now Edge has the same impression. Actually I'm not sure if Google Chrome will stay leading browser for much more. I already use Safari instead of Chrome, because it's enough for my needs. If Edge would be good enough, why install Chrome?
- divbit 10y ago
  I have found that, while I do encounter the occasional bug on Edge, the battery life / ram improvements more than make up for it on my windows environment, compared to ff/chrome. (If you're plugged in all day, or have 32 gb ram, then not likely a difference maker, but I have two 8gb laptops that combined get >12 battery hours of use / day so it makes a measurable difference).
bitmapbrother 10y ago
I don't think you know what hypocrisy means. You're going to Google properties proactively. A user shouldn't have to put up with this crap on an OS they purchased.

by Jerry2 10y ago

wnevets 10y ago

Wait, how is this hypocrisy? Google isn't the author of this article.

firloop 10y ago
You could make the point that this is standard industry behavior, and Microsoft deciding to market their browser this way isn't anything new or noteworthy.
- PAN4SPK2WYWQF7Q 10y ago
  Well, perhaps people would not consider this as annoying if Microsoft advertised Edge for people who visit e.g. microsoft.com with another browser. Having a monopolistic position on the desktop market and using that is a different ball game.
  - firloop 10y ago
    I don't know, doing stuff like sending someone an email to switch browsers seems just as intrusive.
NamTaf 10y ago
The hypocrisy comes from the broader 'internet enthusiast' groupthink that says anything Edge or IE must be worse and that MS is horrible for doing this, but in the same breath they give far less criticism to Google for doing this with Chrome. Whether you agree with that view or not, it's understandable that the OP feels there's an element of hypocrisy not from Google but from the internet community as to how they view these companies' efforts to spruik their products.

mSparks 10y ago

This story led me back to test edge after a long wait for them to fix a million things. It seems they fixed a million things, and I got me a new default browser. Not sure how long it will last. But I've been on bing since the last time I got downvoted for complaining about google search. at least trying to copy the search link for http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/help http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/help doesn't result in: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi7uo7q97rQAhXDKiwKHZ57A7UQFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesaurus.com%2Fbrowse%2Fhelp&usg=AFQjCNHDJjt6Vsb_47V_W70WbobORdEiqg&bvm=bv.139250283,d.bGg https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

Jerry2 10y ago
Edge will be a fine browser. It's fast and light. It's missing too many features to be the choice of power users but it's fine for regular users. I use Linux so my real choices are Chromium and Firefox so I don't use Edge.
- mSparks 10y ago
  Vivaldi browser? Although thats still bugged to i believe.
- vbezhenar 10y ago
  It's fun. I remember times, when Google Chrome was in beta and it was just a little more than webkit frame with tabs. Only distinguishing thing was speed, better security model and nice look. So I switched from Firefox to Chrome, because I didn't really need all that power. So now Edge has the same impression. Actually I'm not sure if Google Chrome will stay leading browser for much more. I already use Safari instead of Chrome, because it's enough for my needs. If Edge would be good enough, why install Chrome?
divbit 10y ago
I have found that, while I do encounter the occasional bug on Edge, the battery life / ram improvements more than make up for it on my windows environment, compared to ff/chrome. (If you're plugged in all day, or have 32 gb ram, then not likely a difference maker, but I have two 8gb laptops that combined get >12 battery hours of use / day so it makes a measurable difference).

bitmapbrother 10y ago

I don't think you know what hypocrisy means. You're going to Google properties proactively. A user shouldn't have to put up with this crap on an OS they purchased.