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Apple, can you sink no lower? Even MS has this one figured out. I guess I'm just pissed because Apple's stuff used to be so good, in so many ways. Heck, I was

Apple, can you sink no lower? Even MS has this one figured out. I guess I'm just pissed because Apple's stuff used to be so good, in so many ways. Heck, I was raised on OS9, and later OSX (both PPC and Intel): I couldn't stand Windows, and was an Apple fanatic for years, viewing even Linux is a worse alternative. I only fell into the Linux thing because I was building my own computer, and no way in hell was I installing Windows on it (Yes, really: And what a faithful decision it was). And now... Jeez. What a mess. Seriously, Apple. Up your game.

CalChris 10y ago
I don't think Apple needs to up its game. I think it needs to put some of the gray hairs out to pasture. If I see another video of Jony Ive looking soulfully into the camera telling me that I really really don't need USB and MagSafe because the future ... Love my SE. Love my Mid 2014 MBP. Don't need a watch.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Oh yes. Speaking of which, have you seen CH's videos mocking this? They're quite funny, especially the one on the iPhone 7: Apple: Johnny giveth, and Johnny taketh away.
  - DashRattlesnake 10y ago
    Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE
vlunkr 10y ago
Well, this article is basically all speculation, so I wouldn't complain yet.
simonh 10y ago
I don't believe it's all over for Application automation on the Mac. Final Cut Pro X and recent updates to iWork apps have all included system automation hooks. This was one of the concerns with the recent rewrites of their apps, that automation would get deprecated, but in reality that hasn't happened. It's always a worth these days, which is disappointing that it's even a concern, but it's not all over yet. On the bright side, at least OSX has a single standard application automation system that still has decent support. For all the moaning about Apple closing up their platform, arguably OSX still has a far more capable and better supported application automation story than Linux. That's one advantage of a centrally planned platform that has actually delivered benefits to users.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Better automation than a system where most serious applications expose all functionality to the command line? You've got to be kidding. Better supported, more consistant, yes. But more capable? I doubt it.
  - hhas01 10y ago
    Can Linux command line do this? https://twitter.com/hhas01/status/793853777111646213 https://twitter.com/hhas01/status/793853777111646213 Message passing vs streams. Both powerful, valuable technologies, but optimized for different problem spaces IMO.

CalChris 10y ago

I don't think Apple needs to up its game. I think it needs to put some of the gray hairs out to pasture. If I see another video of Jony Ive looking soulfully into the camera telling me that I really really don't need USB and MagSafe because the future ... Love my SE. Love my Mid 2014 MBP. Don't need a watch.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
Oh yes. Speaking of which, have you seen CH's videos mocking this? They're quite funny, especially the one on the iPhone 7: Apple: Johnny giveth, and Johnny taketh away.
- DashRattlesnake 10y ago
  Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE

vlunkr 10y ago

Well, this article is basically all speculation, so I wouldn't complain yet.

simonh 10y ago

I don't believe it's all over for Application automation on the Mac. Final Cut Pro X and recent updates to iWork apps have all included system automation hooks. This was one of the concerns with the recent rewrites of their apps, that automation would get deprecated, but in reality that hasn't happened. It's always a worth these days, which is disappointing that it's even a concern, but it's not all over yet. On the bright side, at least OSX has a single standard application automation system that still has decent support. For all the moaning about Apple closing up their platform, arguably OSX still has a far more capable and better supported application automation story than Linux. That's one advantage of a centrally planned platform that has actually delivered benefits to users.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
Better automation than a system where most serious applications expose all functionality to the command line? You've got to be kidding. Better supported, more consistant, yes. But more capable? I doubt it.
- hhas01 10y ago
  Can Linux command line do this? https://twitter.com/hhas01/status/793853777111646213 https://twitter.com/hhas01/status/793853777111646213 Message passing vs streams. Both powerful, valuable technologies, but optimized for different problem spaces IMO.