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Okay, that's telling, but the canary on its own seems to be valid still - it's from August 16, 2016, and they say it should be 'updated approximately once per q

Okay, that's telling, but the canary on its own seems to be valid still - it's from August 16, 2016, and they say it should be 'updated approximately once per quarter'

mirimir 10y ago
I certainly have no clue. I'm still getting email :) And they've had indirect FBI attention before: https://riseup.net/en/about-us/press/fbi-seizes-anonymous-remailer https://riseup.net/en/about-us/press/fbi-seizes-anonymous-re...
- cjbprime 10y ago
  > I'm still getting email :) The failure mode of their warrant canary is not that you stop getting email, but that other people start getting your email too.
  - mirimir 10y ago
    Sure. But you see, the prudent assumption is that adversaries always get all your email :)
    - anigbrowl 10y ago
      Your comment is a distraction, not a contribution. People came here to discuss whether a warrant canary had died, not to hear you trot out security 101 cliches.
- askmike 10y ago
  > I'm still getting email :) While obviously this is not about preventing you from "getting email", you might not have received everything. You should consider the service compromised.
Seylerius 10y ago
If "quarter" is defined as "3 months", we're officially just on the outside of a quarter since the last update — 3 months and 5 days, to be precise.
mirimir 10y ago
Well, after (I'm sure) many inquiries about the canary, their latest update says nothing specific, just: > we have no plans on pulling the plug https://riseup.net/en/about-us/policy/government-faq https://riseup.net/en/about-us/policy/government-faq … https://twitter.com/riseupnet/status/800815181190217729 https://twitter.com/riseupnet/status/800815181190217729
- TillE 10y ago
  This reads like a vague suggestion that everything is fine, but in context (ie, no clear denial) it's a huge red flag being waved.
- dsl 10y ago
  If I were a scary government type and took control of riseup.net, that is exactly the thing I would post to twitter if I couldn't compel them to update the canary.

Okay, that's telling, but the canary on its own seems to be valid still - it's from August 16, 2016, and they say it should be 'updated approximately once per quarter'

mirimir 10y ago

I certainly have no clue. I'm still getting email :) And they've had indirect FBI attention before: https://riseup.net/en/about-us/press/fbi-seizes-anonymous-remailer https://riseup.net/en/about-us/press/fbi-seizes-anonymous-re...

cjbprime 10y ago
> I'm still getting email :) The failure mode of their warrant canary is not that you stop getting email, but that other people start getting your email too.
- mirimir 10y ago
  Sure. But you see, the prudent assumption is that adversaries always get all your email :)
  - anigbrowl 10y ago
    Your comment is a distraction, not a contribution. People came here to discuss whether a warrant canary had died, not to hear you trot out security 101 cliches.
askmike 10y ago
> I'm still getting email :) While obviously this is not about preventing you from "getting email", you might not have received everything. You should consider the service compromised.

Seylerius 10y ago

If "quarter" is defined as "3 months", we're officially just on the outside of a quarter since the last update — 3 months and 5 days, to be precise.

mirimir 10y ago

Well, after (I'm sure) many inquiries about the canary, their latest update says nothing specific, just: > we have no plans on pulling the plug https://riseup.net/en/about-us/policy/government-faq https://riseup.net/en/about-us/policy/government-faq … https://twitter.com/riseupnet/status/800815181190217729 https://twitter.com/riseupnet/status/800815181190217729

TillE 10y ago
This reads like a vague suggestion that everything is fine, but in context (ie, no clear denial) it's a huge red flag being waved.
dsl 10y ago
If I were a scary government type and took control of riseup.net, that is exactly the thing I would post to twitter if I couldn't compel them to update the canary.