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Imagine if your office live-broadcasted nearly everything. From the corridors, reception area, to the opening of physical mail. The PR and generally more "publi

Imagine if your office live-broadcasted nearly everything. From the corridors, reception area, to the opening of physical mail. The PR and generally more "public" email addresses could be transparent as well. This means when the NSL arrives, it will be seen by the world.

VMG 10y ago
or the feed goes black
- roywiggins 10y ago
  Or the CEO met in his doorstep by Men In Black, or whoever it is that delivers these things.
brassic 10y ago
I bet you a jam sandwich that an NSL is not actually a letter sent in the regular post.
- colinbartlett 10y ago
  They certainly are real letters, though you're right in that they might be hand delivered by an official process server. Either that, or just mailed with a return receipt and signature required. Yahoo was able to publish the letters they received: https://s.yimg.com/ge/tyc/Redacted_Non-disclosure_Termination.pdf https://s.yimg.com/ge/tyc/Redacted_Non-disclosure_Terminatio...
  - brassic 10y ago
    Of course, it is ultimately a piece of paper... But in every company I've worked for mail is signed for by whoever and, if it's addressed to an executive, delivered to a secretary who reads it and decides what to do it. Given the requirement for secrecy, there is zero chance that an NSL will be treated in this way. And it won't be served by a random process server. Most likely it will be served by an NSA employee, in a discreet situation of their choosing.
    - b2600 10y ago
      A NSL is a legal document that originates from the DOJ (via the FBI) that requires no judicial approval. Nevertheless it is a legal document. The NSA does not participate, authorize, approve, initiate, or distribute NSLs.
NeutronBoy 10y ago
> Imagine if your office live-broadcasted nearly everything. The next step in the fight against ongoing, overbearing surveillance is... ongoing, overbearing surveillance?
- scrollaway 10y ago
  Transparency, not surveillance.

VMG 10y ago

or the feed goes black

roywiggins 10y ago
Or the CEO met in his doorstep by Men In Black, or whoever it is that delivers these things.

brassic 10y ago

I bet you a jam sandwich that an NSL is not actually a letter sent in the regular post.

colinbartlett 10y ago
They certainly are real letters, though you're right in that they might be hand delivered by an official process server. Either that, or just mailed with a return receipt and signature required. Yahoo was able to publish the letters they received: https://s.yimg.com/ge/tyc/Redacted_Non-disclosure_Termination.pdf https://s.yimg.com/ge/tyc/Redacted_Non-disclosure_Terminatio...
- brassic 10y ago
  Of course, it is ultimately a piece of paper... But in every company I've worked for mail is signed for by whoever and, if it's addressed to an executive, delivered to a secretary who reads it and decides what to do it. Given the requirement for secrecy, there is zero chance that an NSL will be treated in this way. And it won't be served by a random process server. Most likely it will be served by an NSA employee, in a discreet situation of their choosing.
  - b2600 10y ago
    A NSL is a legal document that originates from the DOJ (via the FBI) that requires no judicial approval. Nevertheless it is a legal document. The NSA does not participate, authorize, approve, initiate, or distribute NSLs.

NeutronBoy 10y ago

> Imagine if your office live-broadcasted nearly everything. The next step in the fight against ongoing, overbearing surveillance is... ongoing, overbearing surveillance?

scrollaway 10y ago
Transparency, not surveillance.