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If you've ever listened to Rush Limbaugh with your conservative father, you can't go more than 15 minutes without hearing an ad for LifeLock. Their audience see

If you've ever listened to Rush Limbaugh with your conservative father, you can't go more than 15 minutes without hearing an ad for LifeLock. Their audience seems to be paranoid older people who don't understand technology and are looking for piece of mind. Side note: Here's another kind of ridiculous service that I hear advertised on conservative talk radio: https://www.reagan.com/ https://www.reagan.com/

jonlucc 10y ago
$33 a year for an email service that doesn't do spam filtering?
- Zigurd 10y ago
  Spam filtering used to be a client feature. I'm sure it could work that way again.
- bretpiatt 10y ago
  The service does spam filtering, that's different than scanning the contents of your email to put up display ads on your mail client (ex. Gmail, Yahoo, etc.) or selling your behavioral information and email address to third parties (other "free" mail services).
LeifCarrotson 10y ago
> Unlike some of the largest email service providers like Google, Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail, @Reagan.com will not copy, scan, or sell a single word of your email content. Your "Private" email will stay "Private"! Is this true? Is it possible, with current SMTP requirements? I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not actively copying it for the purpose of keeping records they can give to someone else, or scanning it to insert ads. But to act as a mail server, in my understanding of the state of the art, they need to take incoming mail in a format they can decrypt it - functionally equivalent to 'scanning' it. They need to store it on their servers - 'copy' it - so you can download it over POP3 (or IMAP, in which case it remains on the server). I don't think it's possible to act as a no-knowledge mail server given current mail requirements without using PGP. And to do a bit of demographic analysis, the group of people who "Feel pride of owning an email address with Ronald Reagan's name" have a narrow intersection with the group of people familiar with PGP.
- dmix 10y ago
  Of course an email provider can't be zero-knowledge. They're just a warrant, NSL, or social engineering away from disclosing the full contents of any (or all) persons email. Just like any other email service. And the metadata from any person using their service will be swept up by any security service listening in between without a warrant. So the whole "private" thing is just baseless marketing.

jonlucc 10y ago

$33 a year for an email service that doesn't do spam filtering?

Zigurd 10y ago
Spam filtering used to be a client feature. I'm sure it could work that way again.
bretpiatt 10y ago
The service does spam filtering, that's different than scanning the contents of your email to put up display ads on your mail client (ex. Gmail, Yahoo, etc.) or selling your behavioral information and email address to third parties (other "free" mail services).

LeifCarrotson 10y ago

> Unlike some of the largest email service providers like Google, Yahoo, AOL, and Hotmail, @Reagan.com will not copy, scan, or sell a single word of your email content. Your "Private" email will stay "Private"! Is this true? Is it possible, with current SMTP requirements? I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not actively copying it for the purpose of keeping records they can give to someone else, or scanning it to insert ads. But to act as a mail server, in my understanding of the state of the art, they need to take incoming mail in a format they can decrypt it - functionally equivalent to 'scanning' it. They need to store it on their servers - 'copy' it - so you can download it over POP3 (or IMAP, in which case it remains on the server). I don't think it's possible to act as a no-knowledge mail server given current mail requirements without using PGP. And to do a bit of demographic analysis, the group of people who "Feel pride of owning an email address with Ronald Reagan's name" have a narrow intersection with the group of people familiar with PGP.

dmix 10y ago
Of course an email provider can't be zero-knowledge. They're just a warrant, NSL, or social engineering away from disclosing the full contents of any (or all) persons email. Just like any other email service. And the metadata from any person using their service will be swept up by any security service listening in between without a warrant. So the whole "private" thing is just baseless marketing.