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Has there been extensive research or trials of corporate sponsorship (or are there any startups exploring this idea)? There are probably some principal/agent is

by kriro 10y ago

Has there been extensive research or trials of corporate sponsorship (or are there any startups exploring this idea)? There are probably some principal/agent issues but by and large why can't Google sponsor some CS students and they sign a 4 year deal with them in return (somewhat similar to sports?). In some fields, big corporations already compete for talent, why not start the competition a level earlier (internships could be integrated as well). I can think of a lot of problems and reasons why this won't work...which makes it interesting :) Apart from "won't work for not highly competitive degrees" and "figuring out who to sponsor is as hard or harder than just hiring" and "how do you grantee the people actually stay with the company and are motivated" there's probably a lot more. I think the principle of reciprocality can make it work in principle though.

ryuker16 10y ago
General Assembly is a boot camp that does this. ROTC does this for the military. >Google sponsor some CS students and they sign a 4 year deal with them in return (somewhat similar to sports? They would probably try to get fired so they can get hired elsewhere for more money leaving Google holding the bag or be lazy as fucks. Non compete agreements are difficult to enforce....you cant create a wage slave and expect it to be enforced by the courts.
- kriro 10y ago
  Weather or not the pro sports model is a good thing to aspire to...I'll leave that up to debate but that's a reference point where this model works. It could be adopted with slight modifications. The apprenticeship model also works decently well...at least I'm not consciously aware of many carpenters, bakers etc. job hopping once their education is complete. But like I said the more optimistic view is that employees might actually like your company and that the principle of reciprocality works in this setting. There's going to be a subset of people who are going to be pretty happy that you cared about them and financed their education (and there should certainly be strong mentoring on the side not just "here's your money, call us when you graduate"). If someone just hops away...well that's expensive but might be less expensive than having such a person at your company. Fail early etc. And I mean noone is forcing you to sign such a deal. If you want to argue evil employers and "wage slaves" (a term I personally think is fairly ridiculous, especially if applied in the context of IT jobs, but Chomsky gonna Chomsky) and say that starting your life with huge college debt isn't exactly going to set the workforce free either. You're pretty exploitable if you need to get rid of crippling debt.

by kriro 10y ago

ryuker16 10y ago

General Assembly is a boot camp that does this. ROTC does this for the military. >Google sponsor some CS students and they sign a 4 year deal with them in return (somewhat similar to sports? They would probably try to get fired so they can get hired elsewhere for more money leaving Google holding the bag or be lazy as fucks. Non compete agreements are difficult to enforce....you cant create a wage slave and expect it to be enforced by the courts.

kriro 10y ago
Weather or not the pro sports model is a good thing to aspire to...I'll leave that up to debate but that's a reference point where this model works. It could be adopted with slight modifications. The apprenticeship model also works decently well...at least I'm not consciously aware of many carpenters, bakers etc. job hopping once their education is complete. But like I said the more optimistic view is that employees might actually like your company and that the principle of reciprocality works in this setting. There's going to be a subset of people who are going to be pretty happy that you cared about them and financed their education (and there should certainly be strong mentoring on the side not just "here's your money, call us when you graduate"). If someone just hops away...well that's expensive but might be less expensive than having such a person at your company. Fail early etc. And I mean noone is forcing you to sign such a deal. If you want to argue evil employers and "wage slaves" (a term I personally think is fairly ridiculous, especially if applied in the context of IT jobs, but Chomsky gonna Chomsky) and say that starting your life with huge college debt isn't exactly going to set the workforce free either. You're pretty exploitable if you need to get rid of crippling debt.